Jon Snow

31 minutes ago, CRA said:

It’s just modern day Foxball with a heavy dose of 11 personnel IMO.  

and I think what really makes it modern day Foxball. is how they pass off it.   Which is chunk plays downfield.

and Canales #1 pick is the perfect fit for what he did in Tampa.  I mean, no WR in the draft probably is a better fit for that brand of ball.   

I honestly have no idea. I only watched the two games against us and I didn't know who their OC was at the time. He looks like he's in over his head to me.

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

if the game plan is to simply run the ball to make young a game manager then yeah we are truly fuged on so many levels, I gotta think that is all coach speak and he has a modern day nfl offense planned. 

He's not going to be Fox ball. It will be modern-day running game. Steve Wilks was Fox ball. I would think it would lean more towards a Shanahan style than a Fox staple. He's so green it's hard to know who's playbook he will pull from. 

Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/rnbwcv/status/1784675268193305036?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

Terribly. 

You get an F.

23 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

...I mean where is Fitt now.....NOT IN THE NFL!

He's laying low somewhere praying Young becomes the next Russell Wilson, just like he knew he would be. Had to be the only reason he had a boner for him.

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

it wasn't popular in real time to criticize the Double Trouble stuff.   Only after.  

Generally in real time, most things are supported overall. 

The flaw in Hurney's team building plan was to not keep draft a RB before it was time to pay that second contract. He seemed to do that with every position but LB. Oys was as if he hit on a player he paid them regardless of position and said I'm good until the wheels fell off.  He hit on 3 or 4 in a row and wanted to pay them all. Doofus could have let each one walk and kept drafting them. He had a knack for it for a while. Granted they were 1st rounders mostly. I think Deshaun might have been in the second. Davis was a FA but still, the goober could pick a winner with RB's.

11 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

We couldn't give a 5th and Sanders with that contract. Never going to happen. Said as much when we signed him. Of course the blind homers shat all over the Lawn Guy.

I thought it was a bad contract at the time and it looks even worse now. 

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

This franchise will absolutely never learn about running back contracts.

Maybe someday. I was never a fan of giving a RB a second contract. 

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

100% but miles stunk out of the gate when he did finally play

I know. That's why I do not care if he goes. This season he's on his last chance IMO.

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Miles was bad for sure, but our line also sucked ass and he was hurt for a good bit of the season.  Maybe he mailed it in last year after getting paid but he wasnt that bad in philly, he cant catch a cold but he was a decent enough runner

I think quite a few mailed it in last year, including the coaches.

26 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Too bad we hadn't already turned Burns into their first this year and next.

One of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen.

7 minutes ago, Martin said:

Are you saying the local sports radio guys wanted the local guy

I think he was flagged as a major injury risk by a lot of teams.

To be honest I think beyond the injuries there is concern he has peaked as a LB. He is great as is but coupled with the ware and tear he already has on his body I can see why a lot of teams didn't want to risk a high pick on him. I do not fault anyone either way.

11 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It also speaks volumes to the impact of a strong offensive line. The Cowboys used to devote a lot of draft picks to their line and every back they had ran over everyone until they left. Demarco Murray cones foremost to mind. Sanders ran behind one of the best lines in Philly. Sweat came in and picked up right where he left off. I love having a great RB, but you have to keep investing in your offensive line to be able to use them to their full potential. 

Also true. But Miles biggest problem is that he cannot see the hole when there is one. I'm not the only person that's saw that. I hope he does a 180 so the rookie doesn't have to be rush into the lineup. But if he still cannot find the hole in a donut then it's time to cut our losses. 

4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Not that I feel the Panthers are in position to draft ahead...although ideally you don't pass up a talent though you may have a starter. As much as I enjoy Hubbard, he shouldn't be the starter, despite his admirable efforts at taking it and holding onto it last season. 

The fact that he is speaks volumes about Miles Sanders.

25 minutes ago, Sapper said:

Why all the blind hate for our picks before stepping on to the turf people-  I’m going to go ahead and continue to follow the Hurricanes

My hate? I was referring to Sanders the RB. Me thinks you've misjudged the situation. 

1 hour ago, csx said:

Non of that is relevant to my point though.

I'm not saying he's worth being traded for based on his year on the Panthers. I'm suggesting that he may be more like his career average and a contender might need vet rotational piece and some deal could be made that's any tiny bit better than just dumping him.

 

I hope so. But just don't see it. It would be nice if Dan could pull it off.

9 hours ago, csx said:

Sanders was a 5 yds per carry career guy over 4 seasons until he came to this dumpster fire of coaching and OL injuries.

It's not insane to think he could be more productive in a new system behind a bolstered interior line. Cutting him helps nothing.

The very best scenario is to give him the ball and if he looks good hope for a mid season trade for something while Brooks gets back to 100%. Such as a serious contender responding to injuries needing vet help. (Chiefs, etc)

I don't think Sanders has the value you think he does. Right now I wouldn't trade a bag of chips for his services.  Fitterer was an idiot for giving him that contract. He's the number 2 RB in this crappy team and he's paid like a number 1. I hope he's cut the 1st chance they get.

First of all let's see if we are even picking in the top 5 before we predict what positions it may be. Unless they are predicting a trade for the 1st overall pick. If that's the case then I doubt Tepper has the stomach for that anytime soon.

21 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

There's plenty of room on the Coker bus for everyone. Glad others are excited for him too.

I'm excited for any receiver that can take someone's spot in the wr room. Same goes for any other room in the building. I'm that desperate for anything positive. 

21 minutes ago, bobcat91 said:

On paper today, a C. A WR with all the tools, but not polished. A talented RB coming off of ACL repair. A pass catching TE with good not great speed and not a great blocker. Two in the box LBs that aren't great in coverage. A DT with average at best pass rushing skills. An undersized slot Corner. A lot of boxes checked, but it all depends on how good the scouting department is and how they develop. In 2 to 3 years, we will know if it's much better, the same or much worse than what we thought

Wallace is good at covering the TE and RB. Coverage is not a problem for him. The other one I couldn't tell you. But the rest is mostly accurate to a degree. 

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Why all the ILB's and no help on edge? 

Apparently this draft wasn't loaded with edge help. I think I heard that after the 1st round the pickings were slim and would need a lot of development. Whether that is true or not I couldn't say.

7 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

We signed two of the best guards in the league to put next to two of the best run blocking tackles in the league. If the run game isn't substantially better this year then Imma complete for thinking it will be.

Those guards are great pass blockers also. I'm with you on the running game. They need to get the running game going to open up the passing game. 

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

Right, he shouldn't even look at Ian Thomas' reps lol. There is no vet to watch behind, I think he could be out there game 1 if he gets the playbook down. We finally have no ties to Ian Thomas on staff

Unfortunately I think they may keep Ian 1 more season. I personally wouldn't, but they may need him for the run game. At least that would be the only reason to keep him if there really is one.

1 minute ago, SOJA said:

One thing I keep coming back to is: edge is a very difficult position to find quality players at. It's entirely possible outside of the top three guys we had all of the other edges rated very low. overdrafting one of them is how you get DJ Johnson

There were more than a few comments on nfl network that eluded to this being a bad draft to need edge help.

Just now, Basbear said:

just like XL, he's going to need a couple years.....I doubt our fan base will care. 

I don't think so. I would bet he plays some this season. He will be a full time starter by the end of the season if not sooner. Who's his competition? His only limit is how fast he can absorb the playbook.