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1 minute ago, stbugs said:
He’s at about $16.8M including the tag for 5 years so not as bad as $18M per year. If they did it last year they would have saved a bit but not don’t the tag.
Makes sense--so this is the extension after the tag--I was assuming they threw the tag out--much better.
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Nothing to see here. It was not a permanent tooth.
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I am happy, but if they had done this last year, he'd be at $15-16m.
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41 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:
And there was much rejoicing
see my previous post--meant to attach. Some MP assistance.
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I have seen some basically shrewd moves by the front office concerning free agents. If Erving and Elflien and Darnold work out--or at least Darnold and one other, the most questionable personnel decisions will be wins. The others, like the Miller, Riddick, Perryman, Arnold, Bouye, etc. signings look damn good right now. So trust the front office--this ain't Marty Hurney and his Magic 8 ball. We have a capologist and a pretty good GM it seems. I trust them. Moton is ours for 2021. If Christensen looks good at RT in camp, Moton could be signed and traded for all we know. I love smart football players, and that describes Moton. I want to keep him, but not if it means that we sell out at the negotiating table. Sure, its only a 2 million difference---until it happens again, and again, and then you can't sign a player you want to keep because you are in cap hell. Stay the course. It is all about QBs anyway--not right tackles--and all this LT talk--he is unproven there--when he played there, he sucked.
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17 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:
This flick is getting terrible reviews
That is a shocker.
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2 hours ago, bythenbrs said:
What is that bear doing on my couch?
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9 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:
We need to sign a FS after camp cuts.
I wish I could see how we are going to use our LBs as well. This could be an area that we need to address---which is why Carter is so valuable.
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2 hours ago, Basbear said:
Bookmarked for morning morning toilet time ...
I am honored. Hoping this will not disappoint.
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6 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:
I think Tremble could fill that FB roll when we use a FB. Maybe keep Fisher for the LB group which I think is the weakest group on the defense.
Possibly pick up a free agent at FS if we don't go an additional LB.
I struggled with this issue. I think his value is the TE/FB role--like ND used him...A roster spot is worth something.
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11 hours ago, panthers55 said:
There isn't much difference these days. Williams got 23 and Ramcyzk got almost 20 a year average so Moton will surely get paid, but the devil is in the details which will fall in place next week. If not he will play elsewhere and we will keep fielding crappy lines over a few million a year here and there.
It is a tough call. We could pay his salary with our dead cap. I have a feeling that is the best measure of a GM. However, 55, when I look at the player, I think, "sign him." When I step back, I think, "If we overpay all of our core players, can we be competitive." Moton will get a deal in the $19m range, and that could have been lower if they signed him last season.
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Every year at this time people on the Huddle start bombarding me with requests for my prediction of the 53-man roster. Every year, I have been right a percentage of the time. So this year, once again, I present to you my
"first annual roster prediction before camp starts":The offense
WR: A bit of a lock, I was hoping to find a spot for Omar Bayless, but Zylstra is a favorite of ST coach Blackburn and he is a solid possession WR. Man, this is a solid group, so I have 6 on the active roster.
OL: So much depends on who wins the LT job. Every position is up in the air, with the exception of maybe C and LT. I like Scott behind Erving and I cut Little. Christensen is going to start the season behind Moton for obvious reasons. Moore from Grambling is the new backup C, grooming him to take Paradis' job soon. Miller is underrated to most fans. At LG, I think Daley wins the job, but he will compete at LT for a while, so Elf's experience gives him a shot. In this wide zone scheme, he should be pretty good.
TE: Tremble could be on the field a lot as the #2 TE. Thomas? Gotta play the game to avoid the shame. Darnold to Arnold for 600 yards is something you will see in 2021.
RB: Good group, great for the wide zone scheme. Hubbard slides in behind CMC and Reggie takes some snaps at QB on Wednesdays. Cannon and Smith to the PS. FB: I kept the bruiser, but if Tremble can play it...
QB: After Darnold, yikes.
The Defense
LDE: I think Haynes is a fine backup for Burns.
RDE: YGM and Fox make that spot secure.
SAM: Reddick and Miller behind him.
WLB: We are a bit thin at LB, which makes Miller so valuable. He can play anywhere. Thompson and Luvu? Luvu seems to be a special teams ace, so he finds a roster spot but sees little action that is not special.
MLB: Paddy to PS, Perryman and Carter. I put Carter behind Perryman due to Denzel's injury concerns--and he can play the position.
DT: Basically, we have 4 DTs that can play N-3T, and some can play the 5T. I put Panasiuck on the PS, but he could be a stud. Mark my wirds.
CB: Horn and Jackson to start, with Melvin and Bouye at nickel. Looks like we are going to play some man coverage--Horn and Taylor at the other CB, with Pride as well? Sick.
FS: Now that we can call Chinn a FS, it makes it easier if it makes no sense until I see it. SS? Sure. FS? Are we taking him out of the mix a bit? OK, I will bite. Chinn at FS with Delano Hill (another sleeper I like) behind him. Robinson is in the mix as well, but I have him at SS to have a better chance at PT.
SS: Burris, Franklin, Robinson...I am not 100% sold, but they seem to like Burris, fwiw--maybe with better CB play, he can do what he does more effectively.
The Special Players
Kicker: Slye
Punter: Charlton
LS: Fletcher. Bye to JJ Jansen who has only been perfect here.
The Practice Squad
I am not sure if all qualify--like Grier for instance--he probably does not--but I took a lackadaisical stab at it.
Offense
LWR Moore, DJ Marshall Jr., Terrace
RWR Anderson, Robby Zylstra, Brandon
SLOT Moore, David Smith, Shi (PR/KR)
LT Erving, Cameron Scott, Trent
LG Elflein, Pat Daley, Dennis
C Paradis, Matt Moore, David
RG Miller, John Brown, Deonte
RT Moton, Taylor Christensen, Brady
TE Arnold, Dan Tremble, Tommy Thomas, Ian
QB Darnold, Sam Walker, P.J.
RB McCaffrey, Christian Hubbard, Chuba Bonnafon, Reggie (QB3)
FB Stokke, Mason
Defense
LDE 53 Burns, Brian 19/1 Haynes, Marquis
LDT 93 Jones, DaQuan Roy, Bravvion
RDT 95 Brown, Derrick Nixon, Daviyon
RDE 97 Gross-Matos, Yetur Fox, Morgan
WILL 54 Thompson, Shaq Luvu, Frankie
MLB 52 Perryman, Denzel Carter Jr., Jermaine
SAM 43 Reddick, Haason Miller, Christian
LCB 26 Jackson, Donte Taylor, Keith
SS 31 Burris, Juston Franklin, Sam Robinson, Kenny
FS 21 Chinn, Jeremy Hill, Delano
RCB 8 Horn, Jaycee Pride Jr.
Nickel: Bouye, AJ Melvin Rashaan
Special Teams
PT Charlton, Joseph
PK Slye, Joey
LS Fletcher, Thomas
PRACTICE SQUAD
Hoskins, Phil
Thomas-Oliver III, Stantley
Fisher, Paddy
Panasiuk, Mike
Johnston, Clay
Hartsfield, Myles
Grier, Will
Tecklenburg, Sam
Horton, Mike
Smith, Rodney
Ricci, Giovanni
Draguicevich III, Oscar
Bayless, Omar
Cannon, Trenton
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1 hour ago, dave-o said:
The boy Topcats.... haha
They are only on the Topcats because they added a halftime fan-participation game of ring toss.
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i think it is going to be Darnold.
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Folks, giving a player what he wants does not make you a winner. Most teams that overpay underperform. Do your homework. This is going to be tough, but a RT is worth a RT salary.
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I am going to say what everyone is thinking. Hear me out. OK, a "fur" helmet since we are the Panthers, and they have fur. You can have ears, to help when you are on the road and can't hear the snap count. They are warm, for those games in Green Bay and stuff. This could lead to a tail on the back of the pants, but I fear that might be borderline tacky or as some might say, "Stupid." But hey, did they call they guys who invented pay toilets and the Segway stupid? So let's not judge. Growwwl.
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1 hour ago, bythenbrs said:
Objects in image are larger than they appear
I would hope so. I was developing finger envy.
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1 hour ago, bythenbrs said:
Is it wrong to read the above and feel a little aroused? Asking for a friend...
The friend.
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12 hours ago, Peanut Butter said:
Posted at 5:30 like 53 his number.
Taken 16 overall .. 53 the 16th prime number
And, I will have to check my sources--he used to be 5 years old, and 3 years old, and 16 years old.
This is getting weird.
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Hartsfield is versatile (S, CB, Nickel, ST) and they love him. I doubt he goes anywhere. I give him a 85% chance. Zylstra is a special teams player who is a good possession WR. I give him a 50% chance.
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On 7/3/2021 at 10:22 AM, CPF4LIFE said:
What do yall honestly expect darnold to do with no o line? Jesus christ.
The biggest head scratcher in free agency was the rush to sign Elf and Erv.
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It is so interesting how "up in the air" we are about OL. I personally think that Daley has a good shot at the LT job. When healthy, he has been admirable, but Scott, Erving, and Daley are close. Any article that mentions Little is a sign to stop reading--and I hope they know something I do not---I see Christensen settling in at LG eventually. I see any number of possibilities at RG. I even think C is not totally Paradis. I also think that Miller was not bad at RG last year, but that position could go to Brown (who-on paper-is not a great fit) or Moore. Moore could win the C job, eventually.
Day 1 starting lineup: Daley, Elflein, Paradis, Miller, Moton.
Mid season starting lineup: Daley, Christensen, Paradis, Miller, Moton.
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6 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:
I forgot about holding for FG / XP. I was only thinking about punting where Draguicevich has a cannon for a leg.
So yeah, at least it will be a real competition at punter this camp . Which is good. That brings out the best in the players.
And many punts are finesse placements--who is better at dropping one inside the 10, for example?
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Moton signed to 4 year, $72M deal
in Carolina Panthers
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I have said the same thing. People forget how effective he was in bursts before last year. A LT needs the ability to match up against all kinds of pass rushers--power and finesse--that is why they are hard to find-