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I think Harbaugh and Morgan would be a dangerous combo. I am a huge Morgan fan.  Huge I say.

I am not down on Canales like some of you, but I question his play calling (as I have OCs here in the past).  I can say this:  (or type it):  There is no salary cap for coaches.  Our owner is rich.  If you want Harbaugh, get Harbaugh.  

7 hours ago, rebelrouser said:

OSU runs a base 4-2-5 with Sonny playing in the middle lb and Arvel Reese playing the weak side lb (Columbus Dispatch).  Arvell Reese seems more like the versatile lb who can play edge too.  I think both will be gone by our pick so we would need to look at the UGA and Texas off ball lb's.  If Styles is there at 19 take him as quick as you did Tet; if not, think about trading back to get one of the other guys (UGA or Texas).  I feel like this is a four deep ILB class. I feel like we won't be looking at a quality Edge at 19 either (Texas Tech guy). Trading back so we can address ILB, Edge, and Oline with picks in the first two rounds would be great.  Not really wild about the free agent market for Edge and ILB as the best ones are pretty old.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure when I talked to my brother in law.  I would point out that TD was a safety. 

Corbett should be gone after the season.  He has not been good.  Some of us have been calling him out for weeks.

11 hours ago, 45catfan said:

I swear if we draft Sadiq I will be so livid.  He's more of a freak athlete than a TE.  Think Kyle Pitts.  We have passed up legit TEs for years and the is a really weak TE draft, especially early on. The reason I bring him up is this is his projected target area where we are now.

We are fairly secure at TE--void of a superstar--but the cupboard is pretty bare at ILB, C, (suddenly) WR, and Edge.  TE would be a luxury we cannot afford.  I think the pick will be ILB or Edge--

If we go after a TE, it makes more sense to do it in free agency to me.

based on the way the boards I follow look right now,  it sure looks as if trading back and getting an ILB and Edge later is a plan.  However, I do not rule out a third first-round pick at WR--for example, if Lemon falls to 19--the Panthers could pull the trigger.  Imagine a WR room with Tmac, lemon, Coker, Horn, XL--that would make Bryce better.  In round 2, an Edge (there is some value at Edge in round 2.

Sleeper Edge:  Caden Curry, Ohio St. (3rd round?)

If we wait until round 3 or later for ILB, I like Golday ( my crush right now--played OLB in college), Trotter, Rodriguez, Whitt and York.

9 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Will he be around when we pick?LB...6'4....220

Looks like a very good player needs to get a little bigger to play MLB....right now big enough for a weak side LB.

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My brother in law is an Ohio State alum and a chiropractor living in Columbus, so he gives me some pretty solid intel on OSU players.  He does not see Sonny moving inside (I asked the same question) but he does see him playing some Will and Edge (situationally).  I argued that he reminds me of a Fred Warner, but he says Styles is a former safety. (he mentioned Isiah Simmons--yikes). He would need to add 10-15 lbs.  But he said Styles is known for his freakish athletic ability and his football IQ--very intelligent.  He said if you played Styles at ILB, you might not be maximizing his athleticism.  He added that you need a DC who can maximize his skill set.  Might be an above average ILB, but would be a standout OLB--I am not smart enough to argue beyond that point, so I have discounted his value at MLB--maybe erroneously.

Just now, electro's horse said:

QBs just like Quinn Ewers huh 

Did not say that, but roll with it. I probably did not elaborate on my point.  A seventh rounder getting a shot to unseat a first round draft pick starter.  And he did OK--to such a degree, it is doubtful Tua comes back.  He is a seventh rounder that everyone was down on--nearly did not get drafted.  if you look at his starts at the end of the season, they were better than Bryce's first six games or so.  

I think in terms of risk vs reward.  Of course a seventh rounder is a long shot, but when a seventh rounder is in the same conversation with a first rounder, you increase the reward by lowering the risk.  It is a numbers game.  Was I endorsing Ewers?  Not at all, but the talent that is likely to be available on day 3 was once in round 1 talk (QBs from Penn St, LSU, Miami, etc).  

this draft is loaded for a developmental QB who can, in time, possibly challenge for a starting spot by 2027.   I think there are about 5 who will not be drafted on day 1 who could become NFL starters in time--like Ewers (Fish like him--7th rounder).

12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, technically it's QB but I do agree an elite pass rusher is absolutely critical. We cannot keep being one of the worst pass rush teams in the NFL.

I have dismissed thinking QB--it seems our strategy is to build around this QB instead of getting an elite one.  

I think Edge is our biggest need.  Atlanta, as you saw, drafted Pierce and jalon Walker and they got much better.

We too need to get better at Edge and LB--Wallace and Rozebook are reserves if you ask me--at least part of a rotation/situational alignment.

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Wonnum is a FA. TBD if he is even back.

I think Jones II is back.  Princely should be better next year, Scourton is going to be a beast.  We will probably draft one.

It is hard to say, but if you look at the contracts for next year, we have our core in place--

Free agency:  Re-sign Mays.  Not elite, but 26 and solidly mediocre.  Everyone can't be a star, but he his consistent.   Sign ERFA Jalen Coker to a deal.   Dowdle?  sign him if you can, but he probably walks.  Re-sign Rozeboom (depth) and sign or draft a starting #2 WR.

Draft:  Great draft for Edges (day 2 especially) and ILB.  If we could address both spots, the defense should be solid.

 CB is strong in the draft.

I think we need to draft a QB later (Mateer is my crush right now)

Seriously, if we could upgrade WR (#2 with Coker by signing a slot or by signing a #2), TE (Tremble came on strong and Sanders is a bit goofy--Evans was solid at times.  If we get one, he needs to be elite), Edge (Princely showed some signs and Scourton is a beast.  A pass rushing specialist in round 2 would be nice).  ILB--I really like a few of them that could be there in the third or later:  York (Tex AM), Hill (Texas) and Weeks (LSU).  

So I think we could be solid with an offseason of careful choices

1 hour ago, CarolinaReaper said:

HOISTING!  (Bryce looks like our UPS guy.)

In a month, we hoist!

10 hours ago, The Lobo said:

Lack playmakers on D, it’s a miracle we’ve won 8 games. They have been punching up all year, it catches up with us eventually. 

No real factors at ILB and only a second-round rookie providing pressure off the edge (4 sacks, but he held the edge and got a lot of pressures).  

I was disappointed in the DL most of the time, but I saw some bright spots.  Derrick Brown is the best DT (DE) we have ever had.  Jackson (NT) came on strong.  Brown?  Wharton?  Where were they this year?  Wharton was abysmal.  Brown was not a lot better.

11 hours ago, Fright said:

Unfortunately we do not have a dawg in the positions that matter most. QB, MLB, and HC.

I was very disappointed in DC for not arguing the "ball went out of bounds" ruling.

Secondly, over the past few weeks I have commented (probably too frequently) about how dumb this team is.  Anyone in youth league knows that you run with the ball if there is a chance the pass is actually a lateral.  Rico just stood there.   Last week, there were the dumb mistakes like the facemask on third and 20 or so.  We have hit sliding QBs to lose a game.  We make stupid mistakes.  Now the coach seems to say nothing.  He calls a flea flicker when we are driving in the rain.  

12 hours ago, RevJ said:

After first half of most important game in years:

• Tampa OL pushing our D Line back enough that their RB has several yards before being disturbed =Yorkies
• Tampa DL pushing out O Line beck into backfield. - Poodles
• Tampa may need to call a TO during a play because Baker and WR running around undisturbed long enough that they get tired. - Dogs chasing their own tails
• Tet drops ball / Leggette stops jogging on route - dachsunds
• Our guys keep falling, Bucs look like playing on dry field. - Pugs
• Jackson giving 15 yard cushion - but gets there in enough time to run his mouth and get 15 yard penalty. - yapping dog / Chihuahua
• Mayfield is impossible to tackle - dogs with seeing eye owners
  
  Real dawgs - German Shepherds, Pit Bulls. Rottweilers - Derrick Brown (we already had him) / Rico Dowdle (but not in first half) / Maybe Sirr Purr - cat with size and looks of dog

 

 

We have the highest paid OL in the league and they are average to above average most of the time; they should be elite all of the time.  I really thought Hunt would play.  I am so tired of Corbett watching the QB get pressured by the man he was supposed to block.  

XL is terrible.  He seems surprised when the ball comes his way. 

I blame the traction on the person in charge of equipment.  They have an hour or so before the game to test cleats/traction.  I dunno.  The Flea Flicker was a crazy idea in these horrible conditions.  Let's have the RB get a handoff and then turn his back to the DTs and toss it back to a 5'8" QB in the rain to see if he can find an open receiver to trick em.  We were moving the ball.  Dumb. 

I would caution folks about overkill.  QB is a huge decision and they need a plan B.  We need an edge. we need an ILB.  We need a #2 WR.

Otherwise, our guards (overpaid) are locked up for the next two or three years.  We need Mays and competition at C.  Tackle?  We will be solid there next season. 

25 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Nobody.  Because unfortunately this is considered successful around here.  Bryce Stan’s will thump their chest about wins and Canales supporters will say he’s progressing and Evero supporters will say the defense improved.

All of them are wrong and should be launched into the Sun, but they won’t be.

Everyone will return and next year won’t even match this year.  Congrats, we are in purgatory.

This is how i feel.  On defense, I would let Wonnum, Scott, and A Robinson walk.  On offense: Corbett.  

We should go after (draft/free agency) a WR, ILB, Edge, and maybe a stud TE.  Yes, we could use other players, but the biggest bang for the buck would be upgrades at these spots.

And we need a developmental QB in the draft.  

37 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Rumors on X is that Idzik may go somewhere to get a full time OC role because Dave won’t give up play calling. Maybe him, definitely Evero. I can’t imagine Dan being who he is, likes this defense.

I think Rico, Corbett, XL, are all gone. Probably Nick Scott as well since he’s Evero’s version of Colin Jones.

I think Rico will try to sign a contract here, but Chuba's deal would create a situation at RB concerning the cap.  XL will be back because it makes no financial sense to cut him.   For some reason, the like Corbett (Man of the year) and I am not sure how it works with voidable years--I think he would send $4m to the dead cap pool.  Nick Scott should be gone.  

to me, it is important that we re-sign Mays.  Coker is an ERFA but he has shown me enough to give him a long term deal and start him in the slot.  

Bryce will be back.  He has had growth and there are QBs who took years to see the light.  I am not confident in his physical abilities to ever be more that mediocre, but they will give him a fifth year to convince him.

On defense, I do not see them bringing back A. Robinson, Wonnum, in addition to Scott.

That flea flicker cost us the game--again, stupid football.  Last week?  Horn's facemask.  We are very creative and innovative when it comes to dumbassery

Welp.  Third down blues again.  

Bryce has over 230 yards.  

why do we not always play with urgency?  We suck taking the clock down to 01 seconds

bryce still running the play clock down to 2 seconds or so down by 2 scores in the fourth.