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the problem?  We SHOULD have been developing a qb as the backup every year until we had our guy.  Bryce is an entitled puss who has never been more than a game manager--always surrounded by talent that dwarfs most of his opponents.  
 

59 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

2027?  Are you fuggin kidding me?  Oh hell no.  I can’t take it.  Ain’t no way.  The little poo has to be gone come January.  No ifs ands or buts.

How do you sell it to the PSL holders?  You can't.  I a tired of seeing the other color jerseys in the stadium and watching our QB slapping his knee in the red zone because he goofed again.

On 11/25/2025 at 9:57 PM, 45catfan said:

I would be up for grabbing Mateer in the 2nd or 3rd round.  Scrappy dude.  He gives me Mayfield vibes.  So not a polished dude and needs to sit couple of seasons, but could develop into a solid starter if given time.

I agree.  I hate to keep repeating it, but an Alpha makes everyone better.  Not Nice bryce slapping hands at the locker room gate after giving the opposition points.

On 11/20/2025 at 8:24 AM, Khyber53 said:

 There are going to be good ones there and I agree that they need time to learn the NFL game, especially considering the whirlwind of coaching changes many of them see (or pursue) with the transfer portal. 

 

Yes.  A new era requires a different approach.  The Packers have been very successful doing this--it is the most important position in sports--you should ALWAYS be developing a young QB or 2.

Here is my take on why I can't pick good QBs in the draft--it is all about the timing, supporting cast, and system.  If we bring in "damaged goods" like Howell or Levis, for example, give him a running game. IMO, we are solid at RB (assuming Brooks and Entienne step up). Not sure about these guys, but Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones (I wanted us to go after him, fwiw), and Sam Darnold.  If you think about it, that means that 15.6% of the starting QBs in the league are former "busts."  We could find the right player and draft a player and we'd be better off than we are now.   I think we need the following:

• a #2 WR.  I think TMac is solid and Coker is a great slot.  XL can be a situational WR creating a tough coverage matchup (S or nickel), and Horn does what he does. 
• a playmaking, elite TE.  Not only does it give the D another threat.

We also need to break ties with at least one of our overpaid guards.  Frankly, #74, Curhan (27), needs a contract for 2026, but a deal in the $4m range is a lot better than Hunt's $100m for 4 contract. He is 27 and has shown to be a solid RG.

C Mays (26) needs a team-friendly, long-term deal at C, but he needs competition.  He makes about $3m per season--I would say double it for 3 years--something in the $18-$21m range.

The $$$ they were going to spend on young should go to our LT, Ickey.

So this is a rough plan to improve the offense and locking down players at TE, WR, OL, and RB for the next few years.

We need an Alpha.  Remember the '85 Bears?  McMahon was not that good--he had a good defense, great RB, good WRs, a stud OL....and he was an Alpha.  Baker is an Alpha.  We did not have the parts around him.  He sucked and is not succeeding with better support.

Canales knows this--saw it first hand.

13 hours ago, Waldo said:

It will be worse when they pick up his 5th. You know they want to do it

We have the Rams, Seahawks, Bucs twice--I do not see Bryce shining through it.

I think they would be crazy to offer him the fifth year option, but if they have no backup plan--which they don't--and they solidified that when they signed Dalton.  I imagine that he will stay as a transitional backup to tutor the new QB--

I think there is some opportunity this year for a young QB.  I personally like some of the players who have dropped a bit--but if they do nothing and sign this pussy for another year--and I wanted to like Bryce, but that "doggonit" hand spank when he threw the pic at the goal line--then the look to the sideline as if he was hungry and ready for the nipple--just pissed me off.  The play calling?  Bad.  Why?  The do not have confidence in their QB.

Here is what mrBdawg is not getting.  The Niners get no pressure on the QB (like us).  They walked the S up into the box, daring Bryce to beat them deep. By running play action, they should have had opportunities down field.  Bryce hesitates because he is basically a pussy.  Scared to fail.  Aside from the TMac TD, we did nothing about it.  The play calling (screens) vs a team that can't rush the passer is a head scratcher, but when your QB cannot throw a deep out, a dig, a post, or a slant with any accuracy, it leaves you with the safe passes with YAC your best option.

Last night, Bryce was missing horribly when there was no pressure.  TMac seemed to show some frustration on the sideline.  Bryce is showing no signs of going through progressions.  The look off that went to TMac for 6 was always going to TMac....When they saw the safety crowding the box, it was the call.  Why we did not do this more is a mystery--it does not necessarily reflect poor playcalling--it probably reflects a lack of confidence in your QB.

Bryce has one good game against the Falcons and starts acting as if he has arrived.  

It was a good game sandwiched between two atrocious games.  

If we do not move on, this franchise is not determined to win.

Red Zone:  I would like to know how many points he has scored vs the points he has given away.  

To me, the bottom line is this:  He is not processing.  He can't throw over the middle.  He is not an Alpha....Do not pay this Man $200m.  

4 years has been bad enough.

He was the #1 QB taken and is in the bottom 20% of the league during his best season. 

If the Panthers were to trade him--what would they get?

Personally, I like the depth of the QBs in this draft.  Take 2.  Let them compete.  Send Bryce to summer camp without a bus ticket home.

The Bryce Factor--1 TD, 2 INTs in scoring position, One suck ass pass on a 2 pt conversion.  

His value?  -5 net points.

so lets have our 5'8" qb throw over the middle with one yard to go.

No rushers, no linebackers, and safeties are rumored to exist.  I can't figure this out.  

We have the niners, Seahawks, and Rams left on our schedule, and Tampa twice.  hard to imagine we will win the division.

Defensively, we lead the league in giving theTEs and WRs cushions.   Third and 8, we protect the 15 yard mark.

The first man drafted and the last man drafted are having a contest to see who sucks the most.  Bryce--you are up.

I am sick of Bryce giving away points--sorry. Still pissed.

You can't win consistently with Bryce Young.

Full Stop.

That was middle school stupid.

ANd how much do we spend on the OL?   

Bryce-he is either wide open or you run it or you throw it into the seats.  Why is this hard?

Cute.

Just now, Chief Keek said:

Nick Scott doing Nick Scott things

he sucks.  I f that was a 100% effort, he could have caused a fumble--instead, he knocked Horn off the sorry-ass tackle he was orchestrating---cut Scott and stop drafting Gamecocks.

1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

Baker can really sling it! lol

You sir, are an artist.  Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.

I see it this way, we could beat the Saints on the road, Seattle at home.  Will probably lose to the Niners and Rams.

That means we are 8-7 excluding the Bucs games.  For us to win the division, we could hope to tie the Bucs and win the head-to-head. to do that, we have to sweep Tampa Bay and finish 10-7 (yes--the Saints loss is killer).

Here is why:

The Bucs, on the other hand, have an EASY schedule.  AT HOME:  Cardinals, Falcons, Saints, Panthers.  AWAY:  Panthers and Dolphins.  I see them winning at least 4 more games.  If they beat the Cards, the Falcons, the Saints, and the Dolphins, they have 10 wins.  Probably expected because no team has over 4 wins except the Panthers.

Even if Baker is out, I see them winning 4 down the stretch, making their overall record 10-7 if they lose both games to the Panthers.  If so, we go.

While it could happen; I sense the Panthers are starting to feel it, but I thought that before the home game vs. New Orleans, so we shall see.  I give the Panthers about a 10-20% chance of pulling it off

5 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

So do we think center is a need going into the draft next season yet?

I see it this way:

LB

Edge

OC 

QB2

S

OT

WR (depends on how XL does)

17 hours ago, PanthersATL said:

Maybe it depends on how the logo is tweaked.   Kinda looks college-ish    (yes, this is official NFL merch)

Personally, I would reduce the size of the logo a bit and use black stripes with blue trim--but I like it.

14 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Anything to get rid of the silver/gray. Remove it from any and all Panthers uniforms totally. It's ugly and senseless with our logo.

I kinda like this idea.  The black, blue, and white is solid.  When we wear all whites or some other combinations, there is no gray/silver in the uniform.

Personally, I think our logo would pop on a white helmet--not a popular idea, but most of my ideas aren't.