MHS831

Just now, MHS831 said:

And this:  (Both Scourton and Walker have 3 sacks)

10 hours ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

Thank God DM used that #8 pick on a bona fide WR1 and not some bum pass rushing prospect like Stewart or someone else.

I believe Tet is legit WR1 material and going forward will be our long term answer at that position since we desperately were in need of one once they traded away DJ Moore.  Tet could possibly end up even being better long term than someone who I respect a ton as a WR in Moore.

Evans has been a pleasant surprise and great TE/FB depth piece going forward who could make the most of his opportunities.  Any good offense worth a damn in the NFL has 3 TEs that can do multiple things and being scared by Ian Thomas play for years should makes us all appreciate what Evans is quietly doing as a ROOKIE at one of the hardest positions to learn at the pro level. 

Keep cooking DM. This season is not over obviously but seeing some growth out of young talent finally is a breathe of fresh fuggin air for once. 

10 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

First day of Classes at Tepper Middle School.

5 hours ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

linebacker or FS at 32

I see what you did there.

4 hours ago, Captroop said:

I really like what I see from LaNorris Sellers. Dual-Threat QBs seem to be a commonality among the best teams in the league. He's got a big body, and I'm not saying I got shades of Cam watching his highlights, but I'm not NOT saying that.

And honestly, I don't think you need to throw out the baby with the bathwater once we ditch Bryce. We've got a pretty solid and cohesive O-Line that is build to protect a mobile, scrambling quarterback. Might as well pick a QB who plays that way, rather than try to retrain them to protect a statue in the pocket.

I see it.  I just dont see us grabbing the NEXT Qb-I think we draft developmental.  It will be interesting to see what Morgan does, however, if Sellers is on the board...We like the Gamecocks in round 1.

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Picking up Bryce's option would be brutal. But yeah, it feels like a very Tepper's Panthers thing to do. You just can't pay the guy another $26M+ guaranteed. Not when you can reasonably get his level of play from a journeyman vet FA for a lot less. Bryce is a replacement level QB. You don't sign up to give a replacement level QB another $26M+. You just replace him.

It is, to me, like paying millions to assure, at best, mediocrity.  A player is worth the $50m if he puts blue/black jerseys in the seats.  Does Bryce?  From the business perspective, that would be my concern.  I want stadium full of Panther fans.  

I think a premier ILB in the Panther's tradition (Beason, Mills, Luke, Morgan) would be the best pick and the best way to improve this team.  Edge, you ask?  Well, I think we addressed it and they are developing now.  With Scourton and Princely, we got 2 with real potential.  

Here me out---those of you screaming for QB need to realistically approach the situation.  We are not drafting a QB early barring a late season Young meltdown.  Bryce is getting a fifth year--and he will start in 2026 and probably in 2027 barring some major meltdown.  This season has a ton of "fallen angels" or QBs with the skill set to develop into an NFL starter.  

In the second or third round, you draft your possible qb of the future.  Scratch these probable first rounders:  (Comments are not from me--screen shots)

however, the next six or seven have tremendous potential, and if you draft a QB like the Packers do and develop him for 2-3 seasons, these QBs would give us an upgrade at #2 QB and 2 years to groom him in the event Bryce does not earn a huge second contract.

About WR:  Coker is a solid #3 and Horn gives us a thrilling option on STs and in the slot.  He was a nice pick.  TMac needs a strong #2.  XL does not seem that interested in the job, and he seems a bit over his head in the NFL.  Yes, we could use a solid WR, but I am not sure a rookie.  I think we pinch some pennies and redo some OL contracts and make WR our biggest priority in free agency.  Draft a sleeper late.

Tight End:  Do we have enough there?  I really like Mitchell, but I am not sure about Sanders and Tremble is who he is.  Do we have a threat?  I think Bryce loves his checkdowns and underneath routes--he's not had a Stud TE.  I want one.  (platonic)  They are usually still available in round 3.

Safety:  Not sure we have the center fielder we need at FS.  Moehrig and Ransom might be the same thing.  And if it were not for Doc in "Back to the Future," nobody in Charlotte would ever say "Great Scott!"  We need a smart, defensive QB at S, in my opinion.

Of course, OL (center, T) could be in play, but I like Mays as the starter at C and Moton could play another season or two.  We need to start grooming guards, but we have depth there now.

My draft day order, by position:

Linebacker  Have we ever been good without the best ILB in the NFL?  I don't think so. (3-4 now, but we run some 4-3 looks)

QB #2 with long-term starting potential  (I like so many second-tier QBs.  one or two of them will become NFL starters.  Mark my words)

Tight End  (lotta folks might disagree here, but a big-time, viable option to go with Mitchell, Sanders, and Tremble)

Safety  (we need a QB for the D--Moehrig and Ransom are similar)

Tackle (Moton is getting old and we need to start grooming a potential replacement)

WR  (this late IF we sign a free agent)

Center (I like Mays, but his contract status and the depth at C needs to be addressed)

Solid in free agency, and lets not forget the draft--Most teams expect to get 2 starters/key contributors out of the draft.  3 is a banner year, but more common for bad teams.  

Look at this draft:

TMac.  Yes please.  Sorely needed since XL is becoming the road kill he often eats.

DAY 2

Scourton.  Pay attention.  he is a stud and playing like one.  A second-round edge?  Rare.

Princely.  He has flashed a bit, but he is developmental. Bothered by an ankle.   I expect him to step up, if he is going to, by year 3.  That is the year, if you think about it. we saw the emergence of Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson.  I have not seen him on the field much lately (injured?) but I noticed he was a liability vs. the run in the few plays I paid attention.  Too early to tell.

DAY 3

Etienne.  As a returner and third RB, a key contributor for a fourth rounder.

Ransom.  He has been contributing, and I have little doubt he will push Scott to pasture.

Mitchell.  Perhaps Morgan's best pick.  A good blocking, pass catching TE with swag.  In round 5.  I think he is our best TE already.

Horn.  They are finding ways to use him.  Yes, he reminds me of Steve Smith a bit during his first half season of his rookie year.  They did not really know what they had at that time.

Cam Jackson: A fifth rounder has not played much, but he was and is developmental. 

2 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Yea its kind of weird.   Horn doesnt shadow and always stays on the short side of the field.   

Wonder if that is because he can cheat his safeties to the other side?

10 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

This whole sequence rules lol

 

The thing I notice about this?  Watch Scourton.  The man is going to be a beast in the NFL--no quit.  He runs about 60 yards on this play. And when Love runs back across the field, he takes a great angle.

57 minutes ago, Packersfan said:

You guys were the better team today. 

Thank you.   It sure didnt look like Green Bay--literally.  Trap game? We will take a road win in Green Bay.  Nobody here had a W beside that one on the schedule.  I have always loved the Packers--in fact, when I was playing in college a reporter asked me, "If you could play anywhere in the NFL, where would it be?"  (Before the Panthers--I am old).  I said, "Green Bay"--the tradition, the fans, the small town etc. Heck, the packers were not good then.  (A teammate of mine--Tiger Green--actually played there.  He loved it.)

2 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Hunt would have 15m dead cap next season if post June 1st. 

Lewis would save 13m with dead cap of over 3m as post June 1st. 

If we could find some young, reasonably priced guards, we could use that $$ elsewhere.  I think we are about to see what Bryce is going to be paid. 

We need to be prepared.  The toll-free # to the suicide hotline needs its own thread.

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ickey manhandled Micah Parsons 

He is now a stud.

We found a gem in Jackson and we found another in Smith Wade.  But damn, "He He", catch the ball and take it to the house.   You could have moon-walked that into the end zone.  Lose one of your gloves. 

OK, I am out of ammo.

I am a cade mays fan, but Corbett was solid today, imo.  I don't watch every play--I tend to snapshot the right side and then the left about 4 times a game.

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Was gonna mention that

Good point.  Solid.  We need to get rid of these 100m guards soon.

35 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Final stats.  Dowdle had 28 more yards, a tenth more per average and 2 tuddys to Bryce's goose egg.  Oh, let's not forget zero turnovers to Bryce's 1. When the RB is stat dunking all over our supposed franchise QB, there needs to be a change.

The stat that jumps off the page to me:   Rico averaged more per carry that Bryce per pass.

Just now, Aussie Tank said:

Dropped TD by TMac dropped TD by XL 

I am blanking--the dropped TD by XL--was that the penalty?

Seriously, we outplayed GB--turned it over in the red zone early

1 minute ago, Billy Goat said:

Those guys on Fox can fug off. Still talking a bunch of bull after the game.

Bull is the primary commodity at FOX.

11 completions, 102 yards.

Playoffs!!

What?  Too soon?

Ice him and get a field camera in his face--a rookie

STOOOOOOOPID

Says all you needto know about Canales' confidence in Bryce...we could have sealed the deal

take what they give you, idiot.

waiting until the clock ticks to 3 seconds after a timeout is stupid--cost us a to