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10 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Im pretty excited about a good few WRs in this class. I have to say Franklin isn't one of those guys I'm stoked about.

If their greatest contribution is speed, I'm not the greatest fan. They have to either be a good route guy and create separation or be someone who can muscle the ball away from anyone. If they don't do either of those things we'll, I'm not a huge fan.

How did you feel about ted ginn

speed plus the ability to catch is deadly in the nfl

tyrek hill isnt a great route runner. He doesn't have to be

in the ithet hand, im not dure you g can get it to him

4 hours ago, top dawg said:

We want dawgs, and he's not one.

Sometimes, a deer outruns a dawg

15 hours ago, Byrdman4real said:

Seems like Troy isn't a great route runner. He can run routes but doesn't use much head and sharp cuts to create separation. He relies on speed to get open. His strength is down the field play. Med cross routes, post routes, and fades. Would need some time to learn new techniques in route running, but knows how to run the wr route tree. At pick 39, he would be a safe pick. 

Kinda sounds like a Ted Ginn

Xavier Legette, Ladd McConkey, Xavier Worthy, and Keon Coleman are names you’ve heard time and time again as possibilities at the top of the second round for the Carolia Panthers. Most project Carolina to walk out of the draft with one of those top receivers, but there’s also a chance they could double dip and select two weapons for Bryce Young.

According to Dalton Wasserman of Pro Football Focus,

      Oregon’s Troy Franklin

is one of the best fits for Carolina on day two of the 2024 NFL Draft.
 

Carolina owned the lowest deep receiving grade in the NFL last season. 
 

Oregon’s Troy Franklin was one of college football’s premier deep threats over the past two years. He finished 2023 with a 99.1 deep receiving grade. The Panthers' acquisition of Diontae Johnson gave them a weapon in the short game, but Franklin’s long speed would be a constant threat to deep safeties for the long haul.”
 

The turf at BofA doesn’t help

40 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Not sure why they even bothered with trotting those guys out there. At least send a new player out

Our the offensive coordinator 

@Wolfcop  id be glad if Young proved me wrong

Bpa offensive players both picks

ladd at 33 

      Great route runner.  Always open

       Catches everything

        He better suits Young   I dont get the Legette love  he us nit nearly as polished as Ladd

because young does not have a strong arm for the long  ball  at 39, ill go  the best TE if canales thinks it will help the offense 

if not that,  then center 

we need starters, not projects and Corbett has an injury history now 

4 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Ah back when we had a Dawg at qb

 

…and now, Minnie Mouse

Listening to NFL Radio on Sirus this morning was s interesting 

Charlie Weiss and the other commentators talking about the WRs and some  TEs came up

Weiss  said the following

 1  almost all pro offense run  3 wr sets most of the time

2  that means the TE becomes tremendously important 

3  because  almost   all offense is inside out not outside in 

4  he absolutely loves Ladd   True slot wr   Said he is a star  …great route  runner  does not drop the ball …always open 

5  he does not have  leggett as first rd  thinks he is a good player  didnt say much about him  said he has watched him as he got his masters from South Carolina so he watches the gamecocks play 

Lot more but id not be surprised on a TE earlier than the Huddle’s masses think 

7 hours ago, amcoolio said:

While I agree with your premise of an elite TE making the offense so much easier, the chances of a drafted tight end being elite are extremely low. This team has too many holes to be gambling on a 2nd round tight end. Any tight end that isn't elite can be had in free agency for cheap.

 Name Sam La Porta ring a bell…

3 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Agree here, but there’s two sides to every coin.

This whole topic started because of people nitpicking Bryce’s size and claiming that getting jacked will increase his durability which is a bunch of bullshit.

Does Bryce need to develop better accuracy, 100%. Does Bryce need better footwork, absolutely. Does Bryce need to make better decisions, you bet.

But at the end of the day (shout-out Matt Rhule), he does need help. It’s a football team so the team as a whole (OL, WR’s, TE’s) needs to be better.

This board has five personalities:

- Eternal optimists

- Eternal pessimists

- Trolls

- Actual idiots

- Handful of intelligent people

 

You have to know who you are responding to before even wasting the time to formulate an opinion on whatever topic is being discussed.

You left one out …. Realist

5 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

You sad bunch see yourselves out when Bryce leads us to the promise land 

I won’t be sad

i don’t  want him to fail at the nfl level

he has just shown me and others nothing to indicate he fits in the nfl  until he does, not wasting a lot of ‘wishin and a hopin ‘ on him 

not the first ncaa   winner to not cut it in the nfl

what is disappointing is vacantness on top of it.

not to worry, his rookie contract will allow him to live well in Newport Beach for the rest of his life if he flames out 

let’s see how he does with the 2.7 second requirement, and doing every single thing possible to prop him up 

Young clouds my enthusiasm and vision of what might be 

Therefore, hard for me  to invest in a qb that seems totally devoid of emotion or joy which only adds, in my mind, to his physical limitations 

honest to god, I’ve never seen a more dispassionate pro QB…ever

yes, I know all the reasons..we’ve talked about the situation ad nauseam

i flat out do not believe in him.   

Too, this year isn’t about participation awards… its about being competitive and getting the ball out in 2.7 seconds   I don’t think he has ever done that…he had all day to sit back and day dream at Bama.  This ain’t Bama or Newport Beach, CA

3 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

He is no swole bones…

Love Tommy 

hopefully, they use him more than Thomas…put him as a fullback once in awhile…let him take a handoff…

1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Agreed. The vast majority of NFL hires don't work out, but we have no reason to think negatively of this hire at this point.  

Canales actually says things that technically made sense

Young certainly understands the expectations 

2.7 seconds is a clear, enforceable measurement

6 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Hurst evidently said there was no point in returning last season because of the front office after he was cleared to return.

There's a bit of talk about how a team can tank through roster makeup and off-season decisions but this is mostly about Hurst.

Is it possible the organization didn’t want to risk further head trauma for the player ?

I mean, it’s not unheard of to do that in a lost season, meaning no playoff possibility 

that was a very gnarly looking head shot Hayden took…one day his Dad is asking for prayers and he is suddenly OK…I wouldn’t have put him back in there either

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Turning over the roster to see if Bryce is actually a bust or not while switching coaches leaves you in a situation where once again for the second year in a row we won't really know who is to blame. 2 years with absolutely no baseline to judge anything from 

I have the impression that Bryce needs to show vast improvement this year 

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I have been mocking, good people, and it is difficult to not mock a C. 

I just wish I knew how good Corbett can be there.  If

They have to fix this 

We all know the reasons…

we also know it makes no sense to spend all that money in guards to have a guy like Austin go out with another predictable injury that has a poor backup giving  a direct path to a small qb

On 3/27/2024 at 1:09 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Appreciate it.

Had to have a stent put in because they found a 95% blockage in my left descending artery. I'm told that particular blockage kills a lot of people, so I'm lucky.

Currently dealing with low blood oxygen. They haven't been able to figure out the cause yet so I'm on oxygen a lot and my energy isn't so great.

To top it all off, my vision isn't so good right now. Likely will have to have cataract surgery sometime soon.

So not online much still pulling for the team.

Best wishes and keep pounding everybody

All the best to you in recovery 

I’m an Estime fan.  Watched him all year 

9 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Dont like it

I dont care either way

its just interesting to see how different media outlets interpret the Panthers approach 

i dont know of they just throw things  together based on holes in the roster and hope it sticks or computer simulation 

it seldom seems to go the way predicted 

Round 2, pick No. 33

Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia

After drafting McConkey at No. 33 in the first two beat writer mocks for The Athletic, we’re staying loyal to the cause — at least until another wideout catches our eye over the next five weeks or the Panthers land Dallas Cowboys free-agent Michael Gallup. McConkey’s production was down as a senior, when he missed five games with back and ankle injuries. But he does what Panthers receivers could not last season: get quickly in and out of breaks and separate from coverage. McConkey is like Diontae Johnson in that regard, except he’ll be on a team-friendly, rookie contract and presumably won’t be a problem in the locker room.

TRADE: The Panthers sent pick No. 39 (acquired from the Giants in the Burns deal) to the Kansas City Chiefs for pick Nos. 64 and 159 and the Chiefs’ second next year.

GO DEEPER

NFL beat writer mock draft 2.0: Vikings, Broncos trade up into top 10 to grab QBs

Round 2, pick No. 64 (from KC)

Jonah Elliss, Utah, edge rusher

The Chiefs were looking to move up for a receiver (they took Xavier Worthy at No. 39) and found a willing trade partner in Carolina. It helped that they had a long background with Panthers executive vice president of football operations Brandt Tilis, who spent 14 seasons in Kansas City. Besides getting next year’s second back, the move also gave the Panthers consecutive picks — spanning the end of the second and start of the third rounds — with which to check off a couple of big defensive needs. Elliss (6 feet 2, 248 pounds) is too small to set the edge against the run, but he has an array of pass-rush moves and impressive football lineage. His dad played in the NFL for 10 years, and his brother Kaden is coming off a 122-tackle season for the Atlanta Falcons. Elliss had 12 sacks in 10 games last year before a season-ending shoulder injury.

Round 3, pick No. 65

Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon

Jackson (6-4, 194) has exceptional size for an outside corner and still has room to develop after starting just 14 games in college. After transferring from Alabama before the 2023 season, Jackson led Oregon with three interceptions and 10 pass breakups and was a first-team, All-Pac 12 pick. Jackson, one of the nation’s top junior college prospects before signing with Alabama over 20-plus other schools, would be a big-bodied complement to Jaycee Horn and give the Panthers one of the NFL’s most imposing, physical tandems at corner.

Round 4, pick No. 101

Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State

Tight end isn’t the Panthers’ biggest need, although they could use another pass catcher after releasing Hayden Hurst, who signed with the Los Angeles Chargers. The 6-6, 259-pound Johnson would be the Panthers’ biggest tight end if they were to draft him and would present Young with a huge target in the middle of the field. Johnson, a native of Windsor, Ontario, was the No. 1 prospect in Canada leaving high school. His receiving numbers at Penn State were solid but not spectacular. But he was productive as a senior in the red zone with seven touchdowns, an area where the Panthers’ passing attack could use a boost.

Round 5, pick No. 141 (from NYG)

Charles Turner, C, LSU

The Panthers made a big commitment to improving the interior of the offensive line, signing guards Robert Hunt and Damien Lewis in free agency. With those additions, right guard Austin Corbett shifts to center after missing all but four games last season due to injuries. Though the Panthers are confident in Corbett, bringing in a center from a deep draft class as a contingency makes sense. Turner began his college career as a tackle and played with Lewis on LSU’s 2019 national championship team. A two-year starter, Turner allowed one sack and was penalized three times over 763 total snaps in 2023.

Round 5, pick No. 142 (from TEN)

Tyrice Knight, LB, UTEP

The Panthers lost their disruptor/defensive spark plug when do-everything linebacker Frankie Luvu signed with the Washington Commanders. Knight had a similar playing style at UTEP, where he had the freedom to look for opportunities to burst into the backfield. He had a huge senior season, racking up 140 tackles (including 84 solo and 15 1/2 for loss), 4 1/2 sacks and seven pass breakups. The 6-1, 233-pounder didn’t miss a game over his final three seasons and could be a Day 3 steal with the potential to become a playmaker in Ejiro Evero’s 3-4 scheme. At worst, Knight serves as a depth piece and special teams contributor.

Round 5, pick No. 159 (from KC)

Tyrone Tracy, RB, Purdue

When the Panthers tendered exclusive rights to free agent Raheem Blackshear, it meant their top three running backs would remain on the roster. So this isn’t a position of need. But it’s not the worst idea to add a playmaker on Day 3, especially one with starting experience as a running back and receiver. Tracy spent six seasons in college, including his first four at Iowa, and was a full-time running back for only one year. Though he’s on the older side, Tracy has some unique traits and return experience, not unlike Ihmir Smith-Marsette.

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Round 7, pick No. 240 (from PIT)

Ryan Watts, S, Texas

RD 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman (Florida State)

For the sake of mixing things up, we're going to say West Virginia center Zach Frazier is off the board, going in the final few picks of the first round. Coleman has tremendous size and length and has the traits to be a No. 1 receiver in the NFL. 

RD 2, Pick 39 (from NYG): CB Kamari Lassiter (Georgia)

Aside from receiver and center, you could make the argument that corner is the next biggest need for Carolina. Lassiter is a mechanic with his technique and has the upside of being a rock solid No. 2 to Jaycee Horn. He's not the biggest cat in the world (5'11", 182 lbs) but he plays with a great deal of toughness and physicality. 

RD 3, Pick 65: C Sedrick Van Pran (Georgia)

Van Pran should be talked about more in the second round or at least in the same breath as Jackson Powers-Johnson and Zach Frazier. He may not go until about this point in the third, but he's capable of being a day one starter. He's uber athletic for his size which makes him a great fit for Dave Canales' system.

RD 4, Pick 101: TE Cade Stover (Ohio State)

This is kind of no-man's land here as far as tight ends are concerned but the Panthers have to add to the position. Stover isn't going to be an immediate contributor in the pass game but can certainly develop into one over time.

RD 5, Pick 141 (from NYG): EDGE Javon Solomon (Troy)

I've been high on Solomon for quite some time. He's got all of the makings of being a day three hidden gem with his ability to rush the passer and be a disrupter in the backfield. Losing Frankie Luvu hurts in the short-term, but Solomon could fill that void rather early in his career.

RD 5, Pick 142 (from TEN): DT Jordan Jefferson (LSU)

Jefferson is going to be a little bit of a project, but more of a guy that just needs some fine-tuning. He plays with a mean streak and is one of the more freakishly athletic dudes in this draft that no one really knows about. He plays the game the way it should be played - definitely a Dan Morgan guy.

RD 7, Pick 240 (from PIT): WR Josh Cephus (UTSA)

With the final pick we'll double dip here at receiver because why not? Even with Diontae Johnson and the earlier selection of Keon Coleman, Carolina could still use some more depth at receiver. Cephus has played a ton of ball, logging 313 receptions for 3,655 yards and 28 touchdowns during his career at UTSA.