carpanfan96
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56 minutes ago, rayzor said:
I'd like to see that compared to burns
Burns was double the pressures with over 40. Rest of the stats are very similar
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Our first round pick back at #1 or the following
a pro bowl qb
A trio of good wr’s
2 starting caliber edge players
a nfl level oline
a winning record this season
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Tepper to sell the team tonight before I go to sleep
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47 minutes ago, Tbe said:
Some browns fan crunched the numbers on 20 years of draft data. NFL wide…not browns specific.
I’ve seen it broken down by position too. Some positions have higher success rates than others.This is the only source I can find right now.
Here’s a few more that have good information.
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/4/12/15274148/most-nfl-draft-picks-are-busts
https://www.the33rdteam.com/the-hidden-reality-of-draft-value-part-1/
https://www.the33rdteam.com/assessing-first-round-hit-rate-at-every-nfl-position/
i had a few posts a few years back breaking it down in detail somewhere on the site. lol
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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:
This is all completely moot
There is a 0% chance that either the Giants or Panthers are discussing any deal, let alone deep into negotiations, if the Giants and Burns haven't talked and come to a general agreement on a contract extension, as it would be a complete waste of everyone's time if that wasn't already done.
Latest reports are saying they just started negotiations on the extension
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1 hour ago, Harbingers said:
Somebody seriously needs to check Vegas’s cap… 8 mil.
2 first and heavy salary retention…
With the current rules, that’s brilliant by Vegas. He won’t play til the playoffs and is on LTIR, so won’t impact their cap space this season at all.
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If the active player is Bunting, then a high end prospect is going back in the trade.
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Huge if true
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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:
Absolutely not. If someone wants to sign him and give us the two 1sts we turned down from the Rams then by all means, be my guest.
The exclusive version of the tag is rarely used. It's GM nuclear warfare because the player can't even test his market value by talking to other teams.
I’m used to us being the dumbest team in the NFL since Tepper bought the team. I’m honestly shocked they did something smart
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If he gets tagged, it will be the exclusive tag. They want a long term deal with him.
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23 hours ago, csx said:
People still forget that Young was the consensus first overall pick.
It wasn't just Tepper. It was nearly all of you here as well
He was my qb #3 in the draft.
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What a bunch of idiots. Just why..
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The roster is pretty bad, got to give them time to churn the roster and rebuild it: especially after Reich
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Ehhhhh...
Not surprised since he's been on the interviews for the head coach from the start.
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2 hours ago, csx said:
People want new innovative offense but don't have any patience to do it.
Do you really want to be stuck with power run forever?
Not what I meant, was saying that unless the oline is replaced there isn't a point to playing BY unless you're running power run with play action. He's going to get hit and beat up again for a second straight season otherwise.
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6 hours ago, csx said:
Hopefully we don't tie our offensive future to the personelof the past.
You want to land a new offensive mind then have him play Fox ball?
Remember last year and the qb being sacked a lot and the oline looking terrible?
Every single player on the oline and most of the depth is power run, play action type of line.
If you wanted to switch from that, you'd have to replace nearly everyone currently on roster playing oline.
The other option is letting Young get destroyed again for another season.
:shrugs: it's depressing. Lol
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1 minute ago, CRA said:
Where you pulling those #s' from?
Plenty of guys in the top 10 played on teams that didn't see a lot of pass attempts vs them. I don't have the individual players numbers though.
ESPN posted them going into last week's games. It's part of the line play win rate article. He had 7 sacks on 168 pass rush opportunities going into week 18.
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19 hours ago, Bear Hands said:
This stalemate, Burns’ average performance and the team playing so poorly has definitely put us in a pickle.
We’ll have to overpay to keep him but we lost value if we tag and trade (which may be hard to do in itself).
I could legit see him just go elsewhere.
He was 6th in pass rush win rate and had 8 sacks on one of the lowest pass rush opportunities amounts.
I'm confused about this topic, it's like no one here understands line play at all.
He 8 sacks on 180ish pass rush opportunities. The players above him in sacks are in the 270-300+ pass rush opportunities range.
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I fully expect BB and O'brien to be in Carolina next season.
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7 minutes ago, CRA said:
huh? I was implying he has 2nd round pick written all over him….as in what a team would offer for him.
And it’s a fact he has only hit double digit sacks once in his career after an half decade in the league and teams will be negotiating with a Carolina team that doesn’t want to pay him.
Burns is a good speed pass rusher. Burns isn’t actually very good DE. He is a weak run defender and frankly is limited in how he gets to the passer vs a more complete and dominant pass rusher
6th in pass rush win rate this season. His stats look bad because teams didn't throw much because of the teams limited offensive production.
He had his highest run defense grade this season and was average at it. [67-68 grade]
Coverage numbers were really good as well.
Pass rush statistically speaking He was one of the best in the NFL this season but only had 170 pass rush opportunities. (Meaning using advanced stats) Going off that and Compared to everyone not named Parsons, the average pass rush opportunities was over 300.
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Juan being Juan I see.
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12 hours ago, csx said:
Many believe that Youngs poor dropbacks cause issues. Which makes a lot of sense. Improper depth and pace will do that. It would make sense as to why a veteran lineman was frustrated.
He had the same issues at Alabama but it didn't matter as much because the team was generally the more talented group of players.
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6 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:
New profile pic for everyone:
Done
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3 hours ago, csx said:
I'd like to see an educated analysis of what his issues are.
I've never thought he had the foot speed to be a LT.
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3 hours ago, BY9Franchise said:
Imagine hating your team so much you want the #1 pick to fail with the amount they gave up, must suck they must realize they are stuck with him either way right?
New coach will want to move on from him after next season. He's got next year and next year only to prove himself.
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Posted · Edited by carpanfan96
No I was thinking of pressure rate, do had one of the lowest pressure rates and win rates in the NFL last season. 9% and 8% I believe. Burns was around double that rate or higher while facing double the amount of double team blocks.
the reason the stats are similar is because DJ had way more pass rush opportunities compared to Burns.