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Bleachereport so take it for what it's worth. Top of the second round looks interesting with all the OT's there. Won't happen this way http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2319766-2015-nfl-draft-matt-millers-post-regular-season-big-board/page/2

It's January, and now these guys will start looking a bit more and film and such. Boards should get better http://www.bigblueview.com/2015/1/4/7486055/2015-nfl-draft-big-blue-view-big-board-1-to-100-draft-prospects

Because of two things 1. Don't think the WR class is as strong 2. Because of all the guys I mentioned, we don't have as many glaring holes

At 25, I would not expect an immediate starter. Possible that one of the WR prospects fall that far. Will be like last season on the OT's I am afraid. They were way overdrafted anyway and I doubt Gman picks an OT at 25 that is rated a 3rd rounder. Philly Brown, Tre Boston, Norwell, Turner, Norman, Bene, have all given us less NEED so I expect us to go BPA

Wow, that would be one to remember for sure

Keep going back and watching The Last Waltz

Picking in the low twenties probably means BPA

looks like the OT's are not gonna stack the top 5 like in years past http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board So much for getting TJ Clemmings in the 2nd

Updated GBN Big Board http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html And new 1st Rd Projection w trades http://www.gbnreport.com/2015projection.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2281065-2015-nfl-draft-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-for-week-13 with mock

small board from the HAIR http://247sports.com/Bolt/Kiper-reveals-latest-Big-Board-Top-Ten-Mariota-still-No-1-33285835

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2275944-2015-nfl-draft-big-board-matt-millers-latest-rankings/page/2 I actually thing Winston will fall out of the top 10 on draft day just because he has mad stupid off the wall decisions

http://www.wyff4.com/sports/2015-nfl-draft-big-board-d-comes-first/29863668

No worries, guess I have spent too much time in the TBox where all people do is attack, haha. Sometimes my brain goes much faster than my fingers and I don't get everything down that I mean to convey. My main thing in watching football for 40+ years, is seeing the teams that control the line of scrimmage have a better chance in every game and amass more championships. If your Oline is suspect, you have the situation we are in this season where your QB and RBs and WR's are ineffective. IF the Dline is intact, like last season, you can have a lesser secondary and still get good results. Having great players at each position would be ideal, but having great players in the backfield or secondary when the lines are not first solidified make those great players look mediocre at best. For instance, if the Cowboys in the 80's 90's had not had the incredible Oline they did, then Emmett Smith, Troy Aikman and M Ervin might not be household names. They had one of the most dominant Olines I have ever seen. They make okay guys look good and good guys look great. Same on the Defensive side of the ball

You attribute a dumb statement to someone and then disagree with it? Cutting edge there. I wouldn't want to take a RD 2 anything in round 1 much less the top 5. Who would? I just said that if it came down to choosing between a top DE or Safety, I would always fall on the trench guy as my choice until my lines were fixed and operating at a high level

My thing for years on here has been, "control the trenches" and build a team from the trenches back, on both sides of the line If you have a safety who is having to make continuos tackles, you are in trouble If you have a great QB, but he is on his azz nonstop, what have you gained

An OT is paramount to keep your QB upright and open holes for RB's A Safety is not as critical to me, at least not at 8

Post em here Start off with GBN Reports top 100 as of today after Gurley injury http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html

Didn't Dres Anderson blow his knee out last month?

That was my point. I picked him in the 3rd and he rated as an F. They must have him as a 6-7th rounder

That was based on last season. No updates since June

Round 1 Pick 7: Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama (A) Round 2 Pick 7: La'el Collins, OT, LSU (A) Round 3 Pick 7: Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma (F) Round 4 Pick 7 Round 5 Pick 7 Round 6 Pick 7 Round 7 Pick 7 Quit after this. Makes no sense as Thompson is being rated as a 2nd rounder at worst. Not sure what these guys are using as their guides for grades. Will try it again after the first of the year From McShay in late October 1.. Leonard Williams* DE USC 2.. Marcus Mariota* QB Oregon 3.. Randy Gregory* DE Nebraska 4.. Cedric Ogbuehi T Texas A&M 5.. Shane Ray* DE Missouri 6.. Amari Cooper* WR Alabama 7.. Todd Gurley* RB Georgia 8.. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 9.. Leonard Floyd* OLB Georgia 10. Jameis Winston* QB Florida St. 11. Landon Collins* S Alabama 12. La'el Collins T LSU 13. Dante Fowler Jr.* DE Florida 14. Danny Shelton DT Washington 15. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon 16. Melvin Gordon* RB Wisconsin 17. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 18. DeVante Parker WR Louisville 19. Andrus Peat* T Stanford 20. Devin Funchess* TE Michigan 21. Ty Montgomery WR Stanford 22. Tyrus Thompson T Oklahoma 23. A.J. Cann G South Carolina 24. Jaelen Strong* WR Arizona St. 25. Mike Bennett DT Ohio St. 26. Nelson Agholor* WR USC 27. T.J. Clemmings T Pittsburgh 28. Marcus Peters CB Washington 29. Rashad Greene WR Florida St. 30. Shaq Thompson* OLB Washington 31. Daryl Williams* T Oklahoma 32. Shilique Calhoun* DE Michigan St.

Yes, Hardy has always impressed as the kind of guy that could orchestrate such a scheme