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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Hard to say, but It doesn't sound like this journalist thinks TE is in the cards.

Having the #1 seat at the waiver wire table could be huge if a team reluctantly has to cut a decent player. 

it's darin gantt. i've got mixed feelings about him.

i would like to see us draft and then pick up a vet TE. that would be pretty ideal. we need to get at least one more, though. 

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

If we trade up for anyone it's most likely for Brock Bowers if he drops that far.

our phone call to trade up would probably be one of quite a few if he falls out of the top 10.

hint:

pulling off ladd and leggette would be legit.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

my ideal draft is Ladd, Leggette with the WR double dip in rounds 2....then picking up Shipley, Bell and Stiggers late.  I'd be okay w/ the Shipley overdraft.  Ideally round 4 though. 

1 minute ago, CRA said:

yeah, worst case scenario is teams know Carolina likes a kid....that their insiders already knew the Panthers liked. 

wouldn't be any kind of secret.

thing is i wouldn't hate it. if he's as good as we think....it wouldn't matter where we draft him as long as we get him. 

and it's entirely possible that he would be gone by 39 if we tried coming back around for him. WRs gonna be flying off the board.

get him and pearsall or malik washington and we're good.

2 minutes ago, Growl said:

it’s football not the marshal service, players say things like this every draft season 

agreed. it might be inconvenient, but that's not a reason to not draft a guy you think could be a stud.

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

You mentioned Wiley--Ben Sinnott of Kansas State visited.  They do seem to have a type.  Good blocking and decent receiving.

get both.

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Frank R. said that last year. 

• Tremble, 194 yards, 3 TDs (no drops) Caught 72% of targets.  (This is something to build on)
• Hurst (Now a Charger, I think) 184 yards, 1 TD, (2 drops) Caught 56% of targets.
• Sullivan 125 yards, 0 TDs, (1 drop) Caught 50% of targets.
• Thomas 56 yards, 0 TDs, (1 drop) Caught 56% of targets.

I see Tremble showing signs of breaking out in a new system.  The others are trash.

 

agreed. 

i think i heard something about thomas being a good blocker.

he might be, but you wouldn't know.

keep tremble...churn the rest of the group. draft 2 WRs and 2 TEs and a center and call it a weekend.

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Why would he admit this publicly?

he's excited? 

hey, the kid could be an absolute stud. 

27 minutes ago, CRA said:

Think they are clearly factoring in Canales' TE usage last year in their evaluation. 

The TEs in Tampa caught less balls and had less yardage than the Panthers TEs last year.  And the TEs last year sucked here.   

It's really hard to guess what the plan for this O will be next year.  All we have really heard is the coach saying we want to run the ball (despite them being bad at that in Tampa last year).   

i'm hoping that the fact they have met with at least Wiley means that they are looking in that direction.

they could have other plans, though. maybe it's just they are looking at him as a tall pass catcher. 

TE group is stable? lol

bar must be low.

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Worthy is going to be a very good NFL WR if he can stay healthy. If he goes to the right offense he will be a multi time pro bowler 

wouldn't argue that. i would argue that here isn't the place where that would happen.

lol WE NEED VIDEO PROOF!

the new "WE NEED ANSWERS!"

On 4/16/2024 at 6:30 PM, Jim3150 said:

 

i still remember my first time being introduced to him and his music back in late 1988. life changing experience.

if you aren't an seeking attention QB posting your workouts then you're a bum. 

i think that's the message here.

QBs have an obligation to post their workouts or we have no choice but to assume they aren't doing anything.

lazy logic.

12 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

I hate to say it, but we saw this exact same stuff last year with Reich. All the, why didn’t Rhule do this or that talk.

I’m just in a wait and see mode because right now we are seeing the same PR as we’ve seen multiple times before.

Hopefully, we have a good draft but I’ll be honest. I just want to hear that we are  going after the best and most talented players not just people who fit a scheme. This team is so devoid of pure football talent that it worries me that we might draft a guy who supposedly fits our scheme over a guy who’s flat out a better player.

well, that's the thing that they said they were doing...that' it's not about the X's and O's first, it's about getting them dawgs and then figuring the X and O stuff later.

and i don't think they/we were have the same conversations with reich & co.  they were too busy talking about how clever they were for not discussing the #1 pick with each other and waiting till the last moment to talk about it so they could be sure they were all on the same page. i mean they and everyone else were singularly focused no that #1 pick. looking back there was no real meat to anything they said. it was fluff. all of it. you might think that canales and morgan is a lot of fluff, but reich had nothing but that going on. fitt didn't know anything either. you never got a sense from him that he was a football guy. he carried himself like a good used car salesman. 

18 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the truth is that most young QB's struggle in tough situations like Bryce was in. Only the truly elite don't. Which, I think we can all probably agree Bryce is not going to ever be a super elite guy.

i really hope he proves us all wrong.

would be nice not to have to worry about that for a while.

9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Well damn, talking about offensive...

yeah this year i hope they overload on offensive playmakers. that needs to be the #1 priority. add a couple playmakers on defense maybe, but if you can get an offensive playmaker you get him. 

9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Because a scout has to deal with less players and can get more specific with not only the players, but how a player fits that team's individual scheme. The scout knows intimately what that team is looking for. 

I mean, honestly man, these media big boards and mock drafts are mainly for entertainment purposes. They want to keep all of us engaged and making the company and individuals money.

true to all that. 

i mean these draftniks are more educated than the OG draftnik Kiper was when he first started and some of them have been around the game a good bit of their lives, but they are limited by essentially being solo acts with limited funds tying to hit a lot of players over the course of the year. Some are able to this all year, but still they are just one person and limited to what they can do compared to regional scouts funded by pro teams. Teams are just plain able to cover more terrain and more players, plus they are able to spend more time on it and collaborate with more people. Trips to schools don't have to come out of pocket. They will also have more access to coaches, teammates, families, etc. They look at more tape (as a collective) and hit more games. 

i am grateful for the draftniks and am glad that it has become the industry it has and i think they get a good bit of things right, but as good as some of them are, i just don't think they have the resources or intel (especially team intel) that regional scouts employed by the teams have. When we grade picks, we are basing those grades on a culmination of work less informed parties have done.

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I was very surprised that they had Pearsall rated so low.  To me, he is around #6.  I personally think that he is perhaps the best day 2 candidate and would fit our needs if you look into 2025 and beyond.  Smart, a great athlete (won nearly every category at the combine), has excellent hands and runs good routes.  Am I missing something?

you're thinking the same thing i am, and not just by these two. he's one of the top 4 slot(ish) guys i hope we get...with Ladd, Corley, and Malik Washington. Give me any of those 4 and a X(ish) type WR who can stretch the field and i think we're good.

oh...and a TE.

and another RB who is a thumper and decent receiving option. 

1 hour ago, Fenrir said:

Very deep WR class. I think there are very good players sprinkled among the 4th-5th round ranges as well. Barker from UCF, Thrash from UL, etc. 

i'd honestly be shocked if Baker makes it out of the 3rd round. He's one of those guys that hasn't had a lot said about in the media, but teams are very well aware of and aren't discussing. Pearsall is kind of one of those guys...i mean the media has talked about him some, but teams aren't talking about him either, even though they are definitely interested. Pearsall might not make it out of the 2nd round.