rayzor

It makes me uncomfortable because I had wanted this year to be all about that offense, but I'm kind of getting obsessed with this idea of a defense that completely shuts down any offense. 

Lockdown defense will make it a lot easier for our offense. Better field position, less pressure to score, etc. And we've got big time playmakers on offense to score when we need.

Yes we need help at LT and OG and ...well...OC. and yes, Darnold is nothing but a big '?' 

There's still more opportunities to improve the OL and this defense along with CMC and the receiver corps will give Darnold plenty of real chances to succeed. 

Some good stuff in here. I always had a lot of respect for Taylor as a player. Seems he's got some big respect for Horn.

Need to give those hamsters a raise 

16 minutes ago, Lemon said:

Chinn is okay, but having an elite secondary doesn't win too many games.

7-10 next season with Darnold being the whipping boy.

Having an elite secondary on an elite defense does.

Wouldn't be surprised. I think it will be Darrisaw if we do trade back in.

11 minutes ago, Lemon said:

Too bad he got smoked by the guy our division rival took.

Too bad for that guy our division rival got, we have chinn.

Stud defense just got studlier.

Yeah...I wish we had gotten Sewell and rolling with Darnold makes me nervous, but at least we didn't get mac.

7 hours ago, rayzor said:

We get "stuck" at 8 and get "stuck" with either horn or surtain. Not what I want, but I'm not going to cry over getting stuck with an elite cb or any other elite prospect we can get in the top half of the draft.

Blind squirrel finds a nut.

Please panthers don't take mac.

Just now, holderoftruth said:

Chinn vs Pitts for the next 10 years will be fun

What I was going to say. 

Pitts is a monster, but there's always a bigger one and we've got him.

Whoa.

Maybe mac to atl?

Why do I get the feeling that the jets aren't going to take a QB?

And no ...I'm not serious 

He would also be valuable as a mentor to lawrence. Sharing with him all his valuable experience as a star college QB transitioning into a big time pro.

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I think if you get Rodgers at this stage, you basically got to be like Foxy in Denver and just turn the O over to him largely.  

 

Yep. Ideal fit is a coaching staff that has some talent but is in over their head. Washington would be another option 

I wasn't crazy about the idea of stafford bc I don't see him as a long term solution, but he's a good guy and still has some skill. Rodgers still has some skill, but he could be a cancer as well. 

I'd put him with the eagles because the coaching staff doesn't have a clue and won't mind a QB who takes control of the show.

Just now, joemac said:

Well considering he just won the NFL MVP award last year, I would say a good amount?

Fair enough.

2nd question...how coachable is he? I have a lot of concern about him in that regard. Seems like he's earned the reputation as a prima donna. He just seems like a prick.  

How much gas does he still have in his tank? 

We get "stuck" at 8 and get "stuck" with either horn or surtain. Not what I want, but I'm not going to cry over getting stuck with an elite cb or any other elite prospect we can get in the top half of the draft.

Good idea. Above my pay grade, though.

37 minutes ago, Growl said:

you think that because it’s new it’s progressive and thus are apologizing for inherently unprogressive things
 

turf isn’t helping teams win super bowls

Looks like you are trying to veer into another discussion with that first statement, but to your second...turf definitely isn't a detriment to teams getting in and winning superbowls. Grass is better for health and aesthetics, but it won't interfere with our chances to win.

Lol they're getting cold feet.

2 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Teddy was Mr. Anti-clutch.  He had his chances (8) when the game was on the line.  TB failed to deliver every time.  

Whoever came up with the saying "Nice guys finish last." must have been thinking of Teddy when they said it.

Good descriptor. He was competent and relatively mistake free...but he was that because he didn't take any risks. He was a safe play because he played it safe.

In some cases people will tap the brakes to keep from getting too crazy. The biggest problem with Teddy... I don't think there was a crazy gear to avoid. 

35 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

how did the panthers screw up their chance to get a qb

other teams out maneuvered them, they got outbid for Stafford, and Watson has some....issues

like other teams try to win too

Yep. We have legitimately done all we can to improve at QB and we aren't done. Either we draft another one or we improve the OL which helps QB. 

It all depends on how things fall in the draft and we can't control that. That's been the story so far. We do the best with the choices we've got.