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Just make it fun again. Make it interesting

I'm sorry but that's just an awful take not really worth the effort of debating.

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

WW

We're top of the waiver wire til regular season week 3 when they start the new rankings

losing still has some perks.

40 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

The biggest problem we've had with this team since Rivera left is that we have become progressively more timid. Certainly on offense, but mostly on defense. 

Football is not a finesse sport. It isn't gentlemanly. You don't want to kill or injure opposing players, but it is essential that you knock them hard enough to intimidate them or at least make them pensive about every move they make. 

We used to be those guys. And we haven't been for a very long time. 

So, I hope Dan and Dave can bring us back to this. We need it. And a tough, hard hitting team always gives you a shot, even when you might not have the finesse talent on the field. 

Yes, it is a passing league, but scared or addled receivers and QBs change the whole game.

We need our grit back. We've been a bunch of neutered Persian cats for too long.

i think that in the last year or two of fox, we had started becoming complacent and just accepted losing as not a big deal. we were ok with it. 

with cam (NOT because of Rivera) we started getting some of that grit back, but then after the superbowl run in '15 gettleman killed the team by gutting it. since then we never recovered. guys that could have helped us, he let go. 

rivera was a nice guy. he wasn't a tough leader that brought out the best in people. the league let cam get beat up because they didn't like him rivera and our front office had no spine to stand up for him. 

then rhule came and whatever fight/keep pounding spirit we had in us, he ran out of town. 

you combine all that with what you were talking about, NFL becoming a finesse passing league, made the league soft. i think with the way it appears we are getting rebuilt, we will be bringing back some smashmouth. will we focus on pounding the rock a lot of the game? i sure hope so because teams aren't really built to stop that kind of thing anymore. and the more you are built like that, the further you will go in the playoffs. 

7 hours ago, lumbeecheraw75 said:

ohh?

 

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Dan's got quite a job to do washing the stink off from the Fitterer regime. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. I wasn't happy with our choice to keep him, but even I've got to say he seems to have done well, at least on paper, for this point.

But we've felt this way before at this point in the season -- All optimistic.

I'm not completely withdrawing my earlier judgement, but he's beginning to make a case for himself.

you are correct, it's too early to judge.

one thing that's interesting to think about is, we have have a pretty good idea of what dan is looking for and that vision is a bit more clear in the draft. it's kind of these ferocious guys that have that fight or that dawg in them. some have a lot of natural talent, but are a bit unrefined and untuned, but they play with a lot of aggression. and we can see that he's trying to get us back to a point where no matter what we did, we were going to be putting up a fight.

i think both he and canales have that in mind, but more morgan in the design and he got canales in to get that fight in them tuned and refined and channeled where it needs to go.

looking back at the past couple regimes...rhule, reich, fitt...especially fitt...what was the plan? what was their vision of the panthers? what did they have in mind? i don't think i know. i don't think they knew. 

2 hours ago, MechaZain said:

I disagree. For better or worse Bryce likes to throw floaters to predetermined areas regardless of what the reciever is doing and bringing those down is XL's bag. I wanted Ladd but I think this was right call. Burners and slot recievers are a dime a dozen but legit jump ball specialists are not.

i think part of his game prep is memorizing where everyone is supposed to be at any point within a play and then counting on them to be near there...that's what i recall anyways, could be wrong there. but what i remember is he throws where people are supposed to be so they just have to be near there and able to make the play for the ball when they aren't in perfect position for the catch.

that makes guys like XL more important for bryce. Diontae will help because he can shake loose of coverage. i think that Coker does some of that as well.

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

It's interesting that they are on the pro personnel side.

I guess you got to start somewhere

makes sense to make these changes after the draft is over. probably should have been expected. can't really make these kind of moods during the draft season. wouldn't have enough time to get ready for it.

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I would never buy a car that old unless it was restomod. Not surprised he was stuck on the side of the road more than he was driving it.

 

Never got the project car builds either. I mean sure it's your work, but the money you will spend you probably would have been better off just buying a restomod. Saves you time and energy.

he had always been quite a bit impulsive, though he had gotten it under control for the most part. his wife is a very patient woman, but that little era i thought was going to push her over the edge. she knew it wouldn't last long, though, and it didn't. i think he had gotten rid of it in 6 months.

lol i posted that before i read the other comments in this.

too funny...too predictable.

a buddy of mine bought a 70's era one a couple years ago and it spent half the time he had it stuck on the side of the road somewhere. 

my mid life crisis went another direction.

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Probably just a remake but we were promised some new take/spin

and we have our hopes tied to some big exciting twist we were promised  

i'm just glad it's not another season of rhule or the reich mess. hopefully we got on another boat than the titanic this time.

On 4/30/2024 at 9:08 AM, Panthers Fan 69 said:

I feel we say this every year and every year we are let down. I hope they are good though. God knows we need it.  I’ve just seen this same movie every single time and know how it ends.  
 

also, our CB room is set until Horn gets hurt again. Again, god forbid, I’ve seen this movie over and over as well.  

we've seen a similar movie so we think we know how it's going to end. 

new year. new movie. 

stuck...again.

Move forward.

44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Honestly, I doubt it. That franchise seems pretty emotionless about trading away 1st and 2nd round picks. It's quite the anomaly.

people were talking about how excited McVay probably was at getting a first round pick this year and i think he was probably like...

34 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I wish I didn’t watch that video, what a bunch of nothing 

1 minute ago, jasonluckydog said:

If you would have edited Douglas name on the Jets jersey that would have been epic. 

lol if i could i would have. 

14 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

I like these angles on the XL highlights better than the stuff I saw pre-draft, routes/stiffness not as rough as I remember thinking from the tv angles

 

first, i loved watching those clips without hearing those commentators. just the sound of the action and the crowd. 

second, i'm just excited watching all of those guys. Wallace and Barrett were really fun to watch. 

but for those angles, there were plays that i had watched several times of XL, Brooks, and Sanders that showed a completely different vantage point that made them look even more impressive. 

i think we've got some good ones in this draft.

Don't know about this ex-scout guy, but Jets GMs haven't been really any better than ours for a couple decades. 

That said, i'm curious where XL would have been ranked if he had at last 2-3 years of production like he had his final year. 

I'm convinced that he had been capable of that kind of production for more than the past couple years, but situations and lack of opportunity prevented that from happening. 

So if he had 2 or 3 years of similar production...say he peaked last year but IF he had averaged the two years before 100+ receptions, 1300 yards, and 9-10 TDs. Would that have put him in the same conversation as Harrison, Nabors, and Odunze?

just curious....

44 minutes ago, CRA said:

We seem to be going to great effort to convince ourselves…

More that it could work.

trying hard not to get sam mill vibes from this guy.