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51 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I’m not sure he has the “football IQ” but we’ll see. Everything from the Jets points to no. 

it was the jets, though, and his coach was adam gase. not exactly the best situation to se what a QB has or doesn't have going on. coaches seem to think he has it. 

55 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Robby might not know the history, and as I've found, players don't necessarily share the sheer hatred we fans have for the opponents.  Even in the interview, he didn't know he burned Talib's son multiple times in a game.

 

Robby didn't even know who Sir Purr was. It's quite likely he doesn't know the history. Why would he? He wasn't here. It's not his history so why would or should he care?

Not sure what else he can do to fix what wasn't working. Seems like he's hitting it from all angles.

Hope he hits it from all angles during the season.

Not a fan of Talib, but it was a really good interview and he did a good job of getting Robby to open up about a lot of stuff. 

Seems like Robby is here and feels good about what the team is doing. He feels like he owes a lot to Rhule for giving him a chance when no one else would. 

I think he stays this year,  but he's playing for a contract somewhere.

Just now, SizzleBuzz said:

 

Sounds like he would have been a good fit for the Panthers 10 years ago...

Would have been good to have any year we've had a QB. 

On 6/10/2021 at 7:26 AM, mrcompletely11 said:

How did Darnold look overall?  Great write up

Just so you're on the same page with the answer.

On 6/10/2021 at 4:29 PM, ForJimmy said:

Darnold should look fine in practice. His issues were making bad decisions under pressure, which was constant in NYJ…

1 hour ago, Zod said:

This is accurate. He looks fine. Looks like a NFL QB. But the defense isnt allowed to get within 6 feet of him so I'm not sure how valuable that info is.

1 hour ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

How do you view PJ n Will, is it a competition between the two of them???

Sean Ryan response " yeah, I view them like the rest of these 90 guys, it's all a competition, it's competition for all of us.*

Competition??? Really for all the guys, you don't say...well some may think that's just stupid but hey what do I know.

There is competition between Grier and PJ, but there is "competition" between all 3 QBs.

The reality is, Sam is the starter. He's the guy. It's not really a question and its not up for debate. The other two QBs are in a race for 2nd place.  

Wow you people are nuts.

Low on the TDs and high on the INTs and a little high on the yardage.

30-35 TDs (including rushing) and less than 15 INTs.

1 hour ago, Ace420 said:

The media seems to be sheltering Darnold by not asking questions about his performance, and the coaches dont seem to be providing anything either. I know they ate protecting him, but I still wonder how he is doing on the field. I know there isnt pads yet, but i still want to know if he has been accurate and if he has been throwing interceptions or not. 

I feel like if he was playing well, they would tell us... i hope he is going to work out.

The media is there one day a week. They can see how he's doing with their own eyes. No one is saying he's struggling. They are saying that he's looking good. Zod said that he was looking as good as any QB he's seen there. 

They aren't sheltering him. He is doing as well as you can without pads on. I've heard that he's in command (stepped up and looked to as a leader) and that he's sharp and in point in his throwing. 

33 minutes ago, Michael G said:

Exactly the QB has a lot of options and event the progressions from the same play change if not the entire play call depending on what the read is. In NY it has been reported that the QB ran the play the way it was called up and there weren't a lot of pre-snap decisions that the QB had to make. I am wondering if it was "dumbed down" because Darnold couldn't run a more complicated system or just because that was the basic ssytem there no matter the QB?

Adam Gase is a micromanager, meaning he doesn't trust anyone around him to do be able to do their job their way. There's no freedom. That's problem #1. Problem #2 is that aside from that one year with The Golden Calf of Bristol, he had never worked with or developed a young QB. All the QBs he worked with before had been old guys....Jon Kitna, Jay Cutler, Peyton Manning, Tannehill, Matt Moore, etc. 

So you've got a guy that is already a micromanager being given a super young QB (I think he was 22 at the time)...that translates into 'no way in hell is he going to let that kid make decisions'.

Did Gase limit what Darnold could do because he didn't trust Darnold? Absolutely. But that's more on Gase's inability to trust anyone to do their job.

Just in case someone is too lazy and jumps to conclusions, Sean Ryan says with every QB he coaches he always starts with the feet and works his way up. It's not specific for Darnold. 

I think Sean Ryan is a helluva coach and I'm glad we've got him. The way he's approaching the coaching and what he's doing with Darnold I think is really going to push him to be a really good QB. The guy will definitely have no excuses. 

11 hours ago, Verge said:

This list is sily. 

1. Andy Reid/Eric Bieniemy
2. Kyle Shannahan 
3. Sean McVay 
4. Sean Payton
5. Brian Daboll 
6. Greg Roman 
7. Bruce Arians/Byron Leftwich 
8. Matt Lafleur 
9. Josh McDaniels
10. Frank Reich 
11. Arthur Smith
12. Kellen Moore

Our boy is good and young, but he is not a top 10 guy right now. He will probably get there, but you can't put him above guys like Shannahan, Payton, Roman, etc etc 

Your list is on point.

Their list is poo and can't help but feel like it's got some kind of bias or agenda trying to prop up the Packers org.

5 hours ago, SBBlue said:

System needs to evolve every year.

You can do that?

8 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

He makes stupid throws outside of the pocket a LOT. That’s what we’re hoping he fixes up with coaching.

they were desperation throws with no help and crap coaching. i'd just be glad he was trying to make something happen rather than pickles who just threw it into the stands anytime things broke down and his happy feet had nowhere to go.

but yeah...coaching, a better OL, and better receivers + CMC will make his job a lot easier/less of a disaster.

4 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

When you watch tape on Darnold you just feel like he was trying to make too much happen without support or judgment. He needs to get better about not making things worse when they break down, alternatively the Jets did nothing to help the guy.

it was on his shoulders alone moreso than it should have been and that coaching staff really handcuffed and handicapped him a lot. i mean they were worse than shula. 

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There is a separate article that gives you the best quarterback for every type of throw also (link is in the middle of the one posted above).

Spoiler: It's pretty much all Aaron Rodgers.

watson was mentioned a few times.

ahhh....... what could have been. oh well. we'll be fine.

2 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

And yet some.of his best throws I've seen of his are out of the pocket. 

 

 

Something don't add up. 

that's kind of what i was thinking as well, but i'm guessing that not all of them were home runs. considering the situation, it's not surprising that his stats weren't all that great there. I was honestly surprised not to see him mentioned a lot more because of how bad it was with the Jets.

2 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

Could someone post a recap?  The OP failed to do so. I can't read, so somebody needs to tell me what the heck is going on. How will I ever know whether to be upset or not?

 

Also, you are crazy if you think I am going to click some rando link. That's how you get viruses.

it's safe and after clicking it i can see why there is no recap or summary...it's kind of all over the place but a good read.

haha the eagles got crushed in that. 

not worried about Darnold's spot in it. When things broke down with the Jets they broke down all over. No way could you pin all that on him. Guy was running for his life and had no reliable hands to bail him out when he got in trouble (which was often because that line sucked and his receivers sucked).

40 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Coach Rhule is big on rookies aren't rookies. He's not going to treat a rookie like a rookie

I love this. 

18 hours ago, GRWatcher said:

Noooooooooo! JJ must be allowed to retire when he's ready not when he's forced out.

Awesome idea, Ron.

Yeah.....he hasn't got the shot. He might not but he might.

You've got an opinion. Awesome because we don't have enough of those.

You want to share it? We've got a few threads in the tinderbox.

Go there. You don't have enough posts to go to the tinderbox?  Consider yourself lucky. That place is a cesspool. Don't like that? 

16 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Join civilized society and buy a bidet with a fan built in it to solve your problem you savage.

Got one and tried it during the toilet paper shortage last year. Just felt weird. My toilet isn't by the hot water either so it was just a blast of cold. Wakes you up in the morning though.