CPcavedweller

With the guy who still has JIMMEHHH as his avatar picture, or whatever it's called now, I'm not surprised you'd want to see that. Give me Andy Dalton. The "Red Rocket" is here to stay.

Brian Burns is a franchise type player. If you trade anyone it's Chinn and Horn. Not because they aren't good, but one is hurt all the time and the other can be replaced quite easily.

That's what happens when you drop back to pass 65 times.

We don't have Andy Reid coaching this team so I highly doubt Reich would scheme something to take advantage of his speed. Adam Theilen is allegedly slow but still managed to have 11 catches for 150 yards yesterday. Chark is plenty fast. If we want a receiver, I doubt Mecole is going to be that key to the lock. We need a scheme focused on running. Send a conditional 7th round pick to the Bears for D'Onta Foreman, watch game tape from last year, and revert back to those blocking schemes and that run game. If we keep running the poo we are running now the only way we will win is if the defense shuts the other offense down.

All right, let's get something straight, the Seahawks have a bad RUN DEFENSE which is why we smoked them last year with Wilks and Foreman leading the charge. Knowing that the Seahawks are bad at defending the run, surely Reich the offensive genius would scheme up an under center run game to make them look silly, right? WRONG. Instead, we play to their strengths and throw the ball 60 times. 1. Running out of the shotgun does not work in the NFL like it does in college and even the college game is going more to pistol looks because it increases versatility. 2. Running shotgun as your base formation because your QB is 5'9 185 lbs isn't going to work. The Cardinals showed this is the case. It's why the Dolphins primarily run out of under center, 11 and 12 personnel. We started winning last year because we ran the ball, even when it wasn't working, because play action passing takes pressure off of the QB, line, and receivers. When the defense knows you're going to throw you're at a severe disadvantage.

I am not trading any defensive stars from this team, period. The only thing keeping us competitive right now is the three guys you mentioned and all of them are those generational, core assets that you don't get rid of. At this point, there is no option to trade "up". Anyone we trade would be a down and would harm more than it would help. I also don't trust Tepper to stay out of the way when it comes to drafting and signing free agents. Your most valuable assets are draft picks and key players. Personally, I think you have to ride it out. We already made a horrible trade for Bryce despite all of the indicators, statistics, and recent history says that its a horrible idea. Don't double down on that mistake.

So Tua is 4 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier? Throws a better deep ball, throws with more velocity, better anticipation, and is now on to no look passes with the fastest team in the history of rhe NFL. Yes, let's replicate alllll of it. The Raiders tried this for decades and failed. There is only one Tyreek Hill man. There has never been anyone like him in NFL History. You might be able to go find someone who is fast, who is thick, who can run routes, and who can catch, but usually you're picking from those traits. Hill has all of them. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. Tua was also better than Bryce at Alabama with the same type of players. If it was easy to build what the Dolphins have on offense everyone would've already done it as well. Regardless, they are one Tua concussion from being back to the basics. Lastly, Bryce already got hurt, in Week 2. So that shows his longevity. I find it insane that people will still defend taking Bryce over Richardson or Stroud when both of them are doing a lot more with a lot less than what the Panthers have on offense and one of them has a defensive minded head coach (cough, keep Wilks, cough). Maybe Bryce pans out long-term, maybe he doesn't. But he's going to require an All-Star cast of characters whereas the Colts and Texas appear to have gotten guys that can elevate others. That alone makes expenditures on other facets if the team much easier.

Wilks is also a guy from Charlotte, who played locally, and while he probably prefers a more smashmouth version of a football team, you tailor what you run to who you have. Wilks wouldn't have passed up on a game breaking QB and offensive scheme if we had the personnel for it and I think that's what Tepper feared. You see the 49er's hire an offensive minded head coach and where do they spend their money? On defense. Wilks would've likely had the defense humming while being the type of leader the team needed, that guys would run through a brick wall for, and we saw that. It wasn't even a hot hand situation as much as it was rhat Wilks showed that he could get more out of less, much more. Imagine how demeaning it would feel, being Wilks, and coming back to Charlotte to coach your hometown team as a DB coach for Matt Rhule. Then you get the head coaching job, fire a bunch of dudes, completely change the offensive philosophy of the team, and come within Ickey Ekwonu getting beat like a drum in four or five plays of making the playoffs. Then you don't get the job permanently and instead the Panthers hire a guy fired mid-season. At this point, give me Luke Kuechly. If there is anyone who could step in and be a head coach right away, it's Luke. Someone will hire him at some point and I'd rather it be the Panthers.

Wilks wasn't any of those things? I really hope people can appreciate the miracle that was finishing 6-6 with him as the head coach last year. The guy coached his ass off and got poo on for it.

It's Tepper. It's his wife. Josh McCown told us who we were going to take when he let that poo slip at Ohio State's Pro Day. Then Tepper ate with Bryce, the 5'10 204 QB who is trying to keep on weight but orders a damn scallop salad or some sbit, and it was a wrap. Bryce has a front for a boardroom but that's not what succeeds on the football field. The level of effort I saw from everyone in Seattle with Dalton at QB compared to the first two weeks is insanely different.

3rd round would've been fine. But then choosing between him and Dorian Thompson-Robinson, I'm taking DTR all day. 5 year starter in college, 4.5 speed, playing with Chip Kelly in his pro style offense, etc. Hell, I may have even just waited our Stroud and Richardson to take DTR. There is an alternate universe where we traded down and took O'Cyrus Torrence, Zach Charbonnet, Marvin Mims, amd DTR, while keeping DJ Moore and signing DJ Chark and Adam Theilen. Kept D'Onta Foreman and have Wilks as a head coach. That team is 3-0 right now and championship contenders in 2024 or 2025.

I agree. I haven't watched a full game with Bryce Young because by the 2nd quarter I've seen all I'm gonna see. I didn't feel that way with Dalton who had this team fighting again.

I got BANNED for a week for saying that Bryce wasn't going to be all that everyone was making him out to be. He's allegedly above average in one area and that's processing. Put Bryce Young on any school other than Alabama and he's a 4th round pick. fuging garbage man.

Good coaches don't get let go mid-season, period. They may quit, or retire, but they don't get fired. He was fired for a reason. Tepper has been nothing but tepid in managing this team and at this point I have to wonder if his net worth is what he says it is. If he's as good at managing a hedge fund as he is a football organization, it's a miracle he's not out in tent city California.

I tried telling y'all. 14 rushes in Week 3.

If Wilks was Head Coach I promise we would be running the ball and running it well. We wouldn't have overpaid Miles Sanders by about $22 million. 14 rushing attempts to 58 passing attempts isn't "we can't run the ball". It's a failure of the coaching staff. If you flip those numbers, you're sure that you've won the game. 35 rushing attempts should be the target each week. And if you want to know why it's failing its because running out of the shotgun is a losing endeavor in the NFL.

Or how bad Reich has been. We had FOURTEEN running plays this past week. That doesn't win football games.

Wouldn't have to be terrified if the Panthers FO would listen to me. I'd been saying this since February.

I was flamed for saying we wouldn't win in the regular season if we didn't win in preseason and its only because of how poor the offense looked all preseason.

Dalton took Cincinnati to thr playoffs how many times in a row? Red Rocket is real man. Anyone saying it isn't aren't really old enough to remember the teams Dalton played on before. I can't help but think that the teams changed more than Dalton did.

I'm not seeing a ton of diversity in these Super Bowl halftime picks. Interesting tactic by the NFL. Let's see if it pays off for them.

The point is to discover what is the issue so we know if we should cease paying attention to this team on Sundays and even during the week. Fans have next to no control over anything so whether or not you could fire Tepper is a moot point. Tepper has been QB chasing since 2020. Wilks and Darnold finally figured something out last year and, for the first time under Tepper, looked like a competent NFL program. So the team doubles down, right? WRONG. We let Darnold go. Like Foreman go. Trade DJ Moore away. Trade a future 1st and 2nd away, bring in a whole new staff and draft a 5'10 Wunderkind at QB when trading up for QB's in the 1st round has been a failure for everyone going back at least a decade and the list of successful 5'10 NFL QB's can be counted with one or two fingers. The only plausible explanation is that Tepper was pushing to make the Panthers relevant to national media today, rather than building a sustainable future for tomorrow. I said it before rhe draft and I'll say it again now, you Trade up in the 1st for guys like Will Anderson Jr., Jalen Carter, or Anthony Richardson. Physical freaks of nature with the adequate mental aspect to be successful in the league. We could've taken Dorian Thompson-Robinson in the 5th and traded down in the 1st. I feel like the ceiling for DTR and Young are probably similar. But if you're drafting a rookie and want to start and win with them right away, they better have played at least three seasons in college but preferably more. At any rate, it doesn't matter now. All of us who were "doubters" or "negative" were just immune to the Panthers propaganda machine while the rest of you showed how gullible you can be.

$24 million for a back-up RB? Putting Chuba at number one would be an admission that paying Sanders was wrong and they aren't going there in Week 3. Young's fantasy ankle injury may be some admission on behalf of the Panthers but you can't also do that with Sanders.

We also gave the Bears and opportunity at two Top 4 picks in a draft with Drake Maye, Caleb Williams, and Marvin Harrison Jr.

Actually I will be watching this game because it will show if Bryce is the problem or if it's Reich's play calling. If Andy can execute the offense and score touchdowns, we will know. And I say again, RUN THE BALL.