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As already stated, Perriman may not even be there when we pick. And that really doesn't have anything to do with what I said, regardless of how much you and Jeremy want to clown. I will be good with Gettleman's pick regardless of who it is, because I trust him implicitly (particularly with early round picks). I'm just not presumptuous enough to intimate that I know what he is thinking one way or another. That's why I don't generally talk down about draft prospects in the slightest. You will never hear me telling someone that this pick or that pick is not first round material. I leave that to the professionals.

Gettleman's draft board may as well be the Book of Life as far as the media and fans are concerned. As old school and closed mouth as he is---which any professional should be, I literally laugh at the thought of anyone outside of those that need to know predicting his priorities.

I agree wholeheartedly with the second part. Peat is a pipe dream. I don't see any scenario where he is falling to 25. Gone are the days when we pick just inside or outside the 10th spot.

I don't ever remembering you refer to Kelvin Benjamin as a legit first rounder, not saying that you didn't. Fortunately for all of us Huddlers don't make personnel decisions and Gettleman does.

Yeah, there just may be someone else that slides. Just think if Gurley is there, I would put my money on him being the obvious BPA.

I would take Perriman because I feel that he could make more of an impact quicker. With Oher and now Martin, and Gman and Matsko's apparent faith in one or both, I would think that we'd be better served in the short and long term to draft Perriman first, and then Ogbuehi in the second.

I am not questioning your football knowledge in regards to seeing what you see on the field from a more technical standpoint. I am very aware that Olsen and Benjamin are great options, particularly Olsen.That's not an issue. But I also believe that their skills can be used more effectively with another playmaker in the mix, however little that we pass, run, split Olsen out or whatever. Another playmaker---a legitimate threat---at wide receiver on the field at the same time with Olsen and Benjamin just makes sense. Late in the season, the flaw of trying to rely on Greg Olsen as a secondary or primary receiver was put on display. He was effectively schemed out of the game. Even in our last game (which was way better than his first game against the Hawks), Olsen was largely ineffective until what some people may even refer to as garbage time because it was pretty easy for the Seahawks to take him out of the game. I don't see how anyone that was watching could see it any differently. This "mythical" receiver that you refer to may not be as productive as either Benjamin or Olsen, but is still necessary (in my opinion) to get us over the hump when we meet teams with top echelon defenses and better offenses. This WR2 (which is not a term just used in Madden) would in theory be able to take some pressure away underneath which would probably help Olsen the most. Cotchery nor any other receiver that we have does not put enough fear in the opposition to consistently open things up for Olsen and Benjamin. So although this WR2 may not be the better on paper from a reception or yards perspective than our top two options, in the real world his effect would be just as important. As for Rivera, Shula or whoever not being willing to open up the offense even if we have the tools to do so---particularly when we must do so when meeting a higher and more complete level of competition---they will not be around to do this too many times before they are ultimately put on ice.

Well, it's not like I don't believe that Denarius Moore is a greater receiver than Ginn, and his stats arguably prove this point. So, not, it's not hypocritical. You think that I am crying over Moore? That's laughable. The main reason that we went hard at Ginn is because Brown could not get the job done as a returner. Ginn historically has been one of the better ones in the league, so it just made sense from that standpoint, as well as a versatility standpoint. Now as a WR3 standpoint, I scoff at anyone who thinks Ginn is a better receiver than Moore or most of the others that were in free agency.

It's fine for you or others to view Corey Brown as one of our best receivers that we have. I understand itt from an emotional standpoint, I just don't agree with it because I know we can do better for all the reasons I stated. I am really getting tired of harping on it because I have put it all out there. Some may think it's unfair of me to compare him to the best of his peers, but it's because I believe we need to raise our standards for receivers that could realistically see the field for an appreciable amount of time. For me, trying to compare UDFAs and late rounders is ludicrous unless they just so happen to be on the same team vying for the same spot, with some type of playing time or stats to judge (kind of like the case with both Browns, Boykin and Hill). One of the real issues here with me is that Gettleman has said on numerous occasions that he believes in competition because this gives the team an opportunity to upgrade positions. But instead of just accepting the man at his word fully, some people want to discount or downplay the contestants to their detriment because these fans are more fans of players than the team. For me it's not about a popularity contest. If this is what we are going to have to deal with as far as our receiving corps, then I am for the best players also. But just like there is Brown, there is Boykin, Mike Brown, Hill, and maybe even Bersin who have had an appreciable amount of playing time as pros, who have made just enough noise to not be discounted as just camp bodies. There are also a couple of others who are chomping at the bit to prove their worth---their growth and development like Lucas. No one should be taken for granted to be our WR3.

Personally, I'd like Clayton Geathers. He needs to be coached up as well, but he has been super productive. He may get a little over aggressive at times which may lead to bad angles, or not give him time to adjust because of overplaying a receiver, but he is a smart, instinctive leader with a good work ethic.

No, what's outrageous is you not giving Jarrett Boy kin his due. You obviously just have never cared to watch him play or looked at any stats. You better be glad that I don't have any way of verifying their YAC in college. I wonder what lame excuse you'd give then. Boykin basically just outproduced Brown in most stats that you can think of. And I absolutely know by looking at the stats that he was better with YAC also. Furthermore, it's very lame to use the QB and especially the system as a means to disparage a player's talent. But, for your information, 2013 was effectively his first year really playing, and it just so happens that it was also the year that Rodgers got hurt. Most of the damage that Boykin did that year was with Rodgers on the sidelines, including a 112 yard performance. I guess you'll tell me how Boykin, basically still wet under the ears, was at an advantage playing with Matt Flynn and Seneca Wallace. Give me a break. Brown is not a better route runner than Boykin, and never has been.

And I haven't even begun to talk about blocking. Gettleman covets receivers that can block (even though he ironically let two of our best blockers get away from him), who wouldn't? A receiver that can catch, block, and play special teams will probably get the nod over one who doesn't, especially in an offense like Gman and the coaches want to run. Blocking has to be taken in to consideration. Of all the receivers that we have now, people need to realize that Cotchery, Hill and Boykin are good downfield blockers.

I don't know if you've seen it (but you may have since I have done my best to inform people about Perriman), but Greg Cosell made the comparison as well, in that he said they are similar in "size and movement". To me that's pretty damned good also. If he can keep improving those hands like he did at his pro day and in the bowl game, then I don't see why anyone wouldn't want him at 25. If Gettleman picks him, then I will be ecstatic because I believe that Gettleman knows how to spot top talent, and knows how to maximize his top picks.

I personally don't make predictions as much as I inform about someone else's, so I never predicted KB, Cam or anyone. What I did do is support both of them as possible picks, and I have always supported them as players (even with all their imperfections) and especially as young men. I was happy as hell when we picked KB, because at that moment I knew that it was between him and Marquise Lee, and i was 75 percent sure that he was going to pick Lee. And I will tell you this too: i would almost bet money that most of the people who didn't want us to draft Cam didn't want us to draft KB either.

The using of Cotchery as a slot guy thing is a stretch. But let's say that I agree with you for argument's sake, have you considered that the only reason that we have not opened up the offense is because we don't have another legitimate threat at WR that will take it to the house on any given play? Furthermore, I don't see how you can say with any surety that the next receiver that we more than likely draft, pick up or whatever will only be the third best receiver. You don't know that. Lastly, Olsen is not a receiver. The most effective way to use him is when there is another legitimate threat on the field, as that receiver can draw attention away from Olsen (and possibly even KB), and allow him to put in work underneath. There is a massive whole, and there has been a massive hole since Moose left for Chicago.

Cotchery does not suck, the way that we were misusing him sucks. By all rights, he should have been our WR3. The only reason that I am giving Shula the benefit of the doubt is because Cotchery was the closest thing to a WR2 that we had. Or, let me put it another way for magnus, he was playing the second fiddle, when he should have been playing in the slot.

Benjamin's drop rate at FSU his senior year was over 9 percent, so I find it a little curious that you added .2 percent to Perriman. Anyway, through his first pro season, Benjamin's drop rate was 13.1 percent according to PFF. It didn't kill us, and hopefully he will get better. Hopefully Perriman will get better if G-man puts his card in. As noted by Gil Brandt, he didn't have any drops at his pro day, nor in the Bitcoin Bowl where he torched NCSU for 138 yards.

Well, I remember people talking the same way about Kelvin Benjamin this time last year, so...

No one will mistake Kelvin Benjamin for having the third best hands on this team. Oh, yeah, at WR.

Perriman and Hill are a lazy man's comparison. Hill did nothing until his senior year in school, was only a vertical threat, and not a natural hands catcher. He never had the natural fluidity that Perriman has displayed, nor the pure explosiveness and reported chemistry that Perriman had with his two quarterbacks.

The only ones worth watching are when they play the SEC...

I don't put too much stock in mocks, but I do appreciate the work and information. I also appreciate a mock that is within the realm of possibility, and not overly optimistic. Nice work! Now, I will say that I would rather have Ray Drew than Za'Darius Smith. Drew is big, powerful and athletic, and is likely going to be a better pro in a 4-3 defense than he was at Georgia with arguably meager playing time and use as a space eater. He is just going to have to be coached up at the position, as he basically only uses a bull rush and puts the opposition "on roller skates", as opposed to being an adept edge rusher. But Drew has talent, and he has the juice to become a big problem for the opposition in the pros with good coaching. http://draftbreakdown.com/memberarticles/prospect-spotlight-georgia-dl-ray-drew/

As you said, it's interesting because it reflects someone's thinking...or laziness. It would appear that they don't know the team as well as we do---the personnel or the makeup of the team. I don't think that anyone can say things with any surety until things begin to shake out at the rookie camp and/or OTAs at the very earliest. Until then it's just speculation based upon experience with said players, and stats.