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And that's what I really yearn to hear about, but it may be still too early in the process.

Point taken. But, it depends on the sources and the situation. Sometimes patience is the better part of discretion.

I agree. The thing is that it still doesn't really invalidate that there is some rationale for believing that there is a chance that Hardy's services will be retained (however small it is), and that the reasons behind that rationale is newsworthy, and that some within the media should not have jumped the gun, reporting things as a surety, when all was not said and done yet. Edit: Don't know why I the apostrophe was after "reason". I am my own grammar hammer.

I agree to a point, and I have said the exact same thing, but there is a line where the same old arguments---the same back and forth---is pretty useless. There is a point where it's no longer fun or entertaining, and becomes more of a lesson in futility and exasperation, unless you just like arguing for the sake of arguing, or maybe just enjoy trolling. At this point, all we can do is wait and see what happens with Hardy. At this point it would be more interesting to me to hear arguments as to why Hardy should or should not be here, or what effect his presence would have on the franchise if he was retained, or whether or not he will even be picked up by any team, much less the Panthers. But...whatever floats your boat.

My thing is, why even argue about it. At this point is just kind of comical that you still have people claiming anything with any surety. It's not really breaking news that Hardy is more than likely gone, and to be honest it never was. The more newsworthy story is that there is still a chance----pipe dream or not. All of this bumping of chests and claiming that Hardy is not going to be here really doesn't mean a thing. And, it's going to mean even less when Hardy is released, and even less if Hardy is retained.

Which is what I have been saying basically all along. I started to believe the hype a little after Igo reported it here, but after Jason Cole reported that it wasn't so sure as others in the Charlotte area would have us believe, I won't be fooled again. Nobody knows poo about Hardy's final status as a Panther this offseason until it's reported by Hardy, his agent and/or the Panthers.

He didn't say "suspend", he said "oversteps". For example: Goodell and the NFL could demand to see private and privileged information, while effectively suggesting that they will suspend Hardy if he doesn't reveal it (even though said information could be legally defined as the lawyer's work product". Or, they could even demand the specifics of the supposed civil settlement which is confidential to all parties involved.

So I guess that maturity, growth and grace mean nothing to you, huh? All of the things that Cam is trying to do out in the community today, and you're zeroing in on some past transgressions of an immature teenager. It's difficult for me to feel sorry for recruiters, colleges, boosters, and the NCAA who systematically exploit these kids all the time. I also don't feel sorry for the fans who cry "bloody murder" and "oh my gosh" when a kid is suspected of pushing back, because they turn a blind eye to these issues when it comes to their own teams---issues that are just a microcosm of other larger systems that facilitate authoritarian exploitation of the less powerful or disadvantaged.

You gotta love the legal maneuvering. Sigh

Come on, man. You did pretty well with the boxing thing, now you're beginning to make me wonder. A boxer and mma with size 6 feet and ruby red toenails belies a credibility problem...

Rage posting doesn't necessarily serve a purpose, but personally I think that sometimes you have to get into it with other posters when they get stupid. Though I expect the new mod to display a certain amount of patience, I would hope that they would lower the boom on resident trolls a little more aggressively than has been displayed in the past.

GGG! You got it. The Kazakh, Mexican hero. I work at night right now, so it's really not a luxury for me either.

I think that he punked out on me

I changed it up a little bit. Do you still think it's Klitchko? Think of all the divisions.

Who is the best current boxer from what used to be part of the Soviet Union? Give me the correct answer, and you get a thumbs up from Top Dawg.

Here is Sparky151's take (LOL) from PFT's message board on the matter: sparky151 says:Feb 11, 2015 10:38 AM Hardy will tell the league he doesn’t have a copy, that it’s in his attorney’s hands. The attorney will then explain that it was created by his transcriptionist as part of the case and is his work product and privileged, just as much as what an investigator he hired might have found or what Hardy told the attorney in confidence. The league can try to suspend Hardy for that but the NFLPA would pretty easily win a grievance over the matter since it hasn’t been collectively bargained. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/11/nfl-will-review-court-file-as-part-of-hardy-investigation/ Now of course I don't know, but this guy sounds like he has some legal experience. Regardless, it sounds very possible.

It can't be the short form version. It must be the long form.

fify

If Lola, I will pay for the use of your credentials for an hour.

Now watch some idiot change their name to this. Or create an alt.

As s mod, Montsta's first duty should be to ban everyone that spelled his name without the tee. Oh, wait, the OP!

If it were up to me, I would make you a mod because you seem to sincerely care and desire to be one. I really would. That being said, I think that you are taking this way too seriously. You can still post and contribute, and make your impact without a title. In a way, we are all moderators (or at least we should be). You can use your personality and words to steer content in certain directions. You can earn the respect of others and make your imprint the old fashioned way, by being good at what you do. If someone gets out of line, you can use eloquence and directness to check them, which, in a way, is more effective than banning them because you can lead them into the trap of stupidity of their own making. Sure, you can't ban people, set policy, or make rules officially or de facto, but ultimately this is Jeremy Igo's little kingdom, and he is the real authority. He runs the joint with volunteers that work for free---whose only real payment is the ultimately meaningless power to clean up the forum of unnecessary, redundant or illegal content, warn members when they are getting out of line, and ban idiots. Enjoy the freedom of participation and persuasion, and the reputation and the de facto power and respect of your own making, without the burden.

Are you wholely or halfway serious, or is this just a ruse?

That's because Panthers fans are probably the only ones that really give a poo to do more than just a cursory look and wilt under ignorant public sentiment. That, or we're being homers. If much of the general population (pun intended) maligns a good guy like Cam Newton unfairly, what do you think they are going to do to a perceived bad guy like Greg Hardy? And don't throw in all the other racial factors and stereotypes regarding Hardy and Holder. Hardy's bad decisions have left him in a pickle.

Are you dominate?