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Andy Reid tree (Paul Brown) and Bill Belichick tree (Chuck Fairbanks) are crossbreeding at the championship level with the Giants coaching staff. The best of a mixed West Coast and Erhardt-Perkins offense. You can watch as the Giants become dominant or grab their offensive genius in Kafka/Tierney now.
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My want is Johnny Holland as DC. Doubt he would do it. He seems to want to develop players and turn them into coaches like he has with DeMeco Ryans. I've liked Holland since he has been coaching with Holmgren in Green Bay and Seattle. Kafka will likely grab a DC with Bill Belichick or Sean McDermott ties.
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Kafka from the booth and Tierney on the sideline working with Jones. They have this offense working like a machine. It is clearly more the coaching and play calling than any individual player. This offense has been practiced/prepared very well throughout the season. Kafka as HC and Tierney as OC. Now is the time. They have helped develop some of the best QBs in the NFL. Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Daniel Jones.
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Check out Tierney coaching up Daniel Jones on the sideline and going back and forth with Kafka in the box. Tierney has Jones on point before he even takes the field each drive. I wanted Kafka over Rhule in 2020. Now, that Daboll has paired up Kafka with TIerney, I want both of them. Kafka as HC and Tierney as OC.
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Daboll has been hiding and riding Tierney since he stole him from Saban after the Alabama national championship in 2017. Compare his coaching style to a young Bill Belichick.
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Tepper enamored with Ben Johnson per Person
CPantherKing replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
The Lions game where they only scored 7 points with 18 minutes remaining in the game? The game against the Panthers where Wilks chose to run down the clock for the entire 2nd half and play a soft zone for a full 2 quarters to end the game? The game that ended the Lions playoff chances? -
Tepper enamored with Ben Johnson per Person
CPantherKing replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Anyone who thinks he is the one who worked with Goff needs to dive into Johnson's history. He gets more credit for the losing days in Miami with Tannehill and Matt Moore as an Asst. QB coach than he does for his limited work with Goff. -
Tepper enamored with Ben Johnson per Person
CPantherKing replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Johnson was not Campbell's OC in 2021. Goff has been handled by Mark Brunell exclusively per Dan Campbell. The only QBs Johnson has helped develop as an asst. QB coach was Matt Moore and Ryan Tannehill with Miami. Goff's work has largely been with Mark Brunell over the past 2 seasons. Campbell made a point to bring in Brunell to work with the QB and assist with offensive game plans and play calling. Johnson even stated that he did not get to start working with Goff until late in 2021 season. Campbell hand picked Brunell and Duce Staley, he named Staley assistant HC. Anthony Lynn was paired with Campbell and half way through the season there was clashing between Campbell, Goff, Brunell, and Staley with Lynn and the play calling. Campbell took over the offensive play calling with the help of Brunell and Staley. Johnson was elevated to TE/PGC at the end of 2021. Johnson leaned on the relationship of Dan Campbell and Mark Brunell at the senior bowl and in the offseason after elevating Johnson to OC. Johnson was still not given the lead for calling plays going in to the preseason. This was shared between Campbell, Johnson, Brunell, and Staley. Campbell mainly chose Johnson because he liked his ability to communicate plays into the huddle and would listen to Campbell, Brunell, and Staley without going rogue like Lynn did in 2021. Johnson was finally given the lead for play calling days before the season opener. Ben Johnson has not been a complete OC for an entire year, and he leaned heavily on others when he had full OC responsibilities. If hiring an OC to build a team as HC, I would want to see the development of young playoff/championship QBs who win, and a successful offense under at least 2 coaches that have gone to playoffs. Ben Johnson is 0-1 in the playoffs with the Dolphins as an asst. WR coach under Clyde Christensen (the QB coach for the Bucs who has helped develop Byron Leftwich). -
I've been expecting Leftwich as Tepper's play. If he gets Kafka and Tierney to come together as HC/OC, I will be surprised on how right he got it. He already surprised me by being the first owner to request an interview with Kafka for HC. Then all of a sudden the Texans responded with a request too.
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Since modern free agency Roethlisberger and E.Manning are the only championship QBs that have been unavailable to the Panthers. They could of had any of the other QBs. Of 34 championship QBs in NFL history only 11 have not been traded or let go from the team that held their rights as a rookie. I believe Rodgers and Mahomes will be taken off of this list before their career is over. The trades and signings are out there and available most of the time. It's up to the Panthers to know how to find a QB and pay the price.
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Justin Herbert looks lost
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Justin Herbert fail. Better luck in your next playoffs Herbert.
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Non-first round QBs have more success in the playoffs than 1st round QBs. When looking at 1st round QBs and success for the team that drafts them, it looks even worse for 1st round QBs in the playoffs. The worst thing a team could do is draft a 1st round QB without a professional sports pedigree and develop them. Trade for a 27/28 year old 1st round QB who is a proven winner, draft mid to late round QBs, sign undrafted QBs, let the QBs compete and keep starting them as long as they have 1 GWD for every 3 losses. If they get to 4 losses without a GWD or 7 losses without 3 GWD, move on. Trade them if they have perceived value around the league.
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You only need a QB with average football intelligence, athletic instincts in the pocket, a sigma personality, perseverance, patience, and decisiveness. There are plenty of QBs available who fit this, but they don't tend to overwhelmingly be 1st round combine winners. Offensive coaches are the key. Take Kafka and Tierney away from Daboll's staff and he will be 2nd or 3rd tier as an NFL head coach.
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DeMeco Ryans is a product of Johnny Holland. A defensive coach is never good for building a team into a dominant offensive contender. They are good for maintaining a contender that an offensive coach has laid the foundation for. Ryans will be a very good DC for a long time with Holland having his back. Ben Johnson is a product of a 4 headed OC with Campbell, Johnson, Brunell, and Staley. Johnson has not shown success in developing an offense, TEs, or QBs. Campbell placed him as the OC because he can communicate well with the QB/offense and does not rock the boat when Campbell, Brunell, and Staley weigh in with plays and planning like Lynn did. Johnson will not be good when he has to stand on his own and there should be no expectation of him developing a QB.
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Lawrence is having a career ending game
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From 2022? Glass, Ridder, Purdy, and Coan Keep watching
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Not true. 45 franchise QBs per decade. 2 1st rounders go on to win SB and 2 non-1st rounders go on to win SB. 90s gave us Brad Johnson and Kurt Warner. Both did not go in the first 7 rounds. 2000s gave us Tom Brady (6th round) and Drew Brees. 2010s gave us Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. These are your playoff QBs outside the 1st round over the past 15 seasons: Brock Purdy, Geno Smith, Tyler Huntley, Skylar Thompson, Kirk Cousins, Taylor Heinicke, Dak Prescott, Derek Carr, Jalen Hurts, Jimmy Garoppolo, Case Keenum, Tyrod Taylor, Brock Osweiler, Connor Cook, Matt Moore, Brian Hoyer, AJ McCarron, Tony Romo, Ryan Lindley, Andy Dalton, Collin Kaepernick, Matt Schaub, Joe Webb, TJ Yates, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Cassel, Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, Jake Delhomme, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Nick Foles, Russell Wilson, and Tarvaris Jackson. (Day 2 - Day 3; 4th/5th - Day 3 6th/7th - Undrafted or later rounds) 34 of 73 playoff QBs in the past 15 seasons have come from outside the 1st round 1 of every 5 non-1st round QBs are undrafted. 1 of 2 are 6th round or later. 1 of every 4 playoff QBs come from the 6th round or later. Clearly, this is not rare. While more 1st round QBs get to the playoffs, non-1st round QBs who get to the playoffs have a better chance at winning the SB. When you factor in a QB winning a SB for the team that drafted them, non-1st round QBs have a slight advantage. Of Non-1st round QBs in the playoffs, 6th round to undrafted QBs have the same rate of success as their 2nd to 5th round counterparts. The Panthers have had 8 of these playoff QBs on their roster. 4 of them were from the 1st round, 1 was from the 6th round, and 3 were undrafted. The 1st round QBs have a playoff record of .412 with 7 wins, and the non-1st rounders have a .500 playoff record with 6 wins. You can run this with every NFL team. You may find 2 of the 32 teams that do not follow this pattern. Steelers are one of these teams. Steelers are an outlier as an organization and trying to copy their blueprint over the decades is a tall and foolish task. If anything, there are a fair amount of QBs who could be among the top of the NFL QBs and they are overlooked and never given an opportunity to prove they can win/succeed at the NFL level.
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As opposed to all the players who did not want to be traded away from Rhule and Tepper's perpetual rebuild?
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Kafka if he brings Tierney is the clear winner. Johnson isn't going to be able to take anything from Campbell. I'd be interested if Brunell came with Johnson, but doubt he will leave Campbell. Steichen's staff would also be unimpressive. Steichen with the Chargers was unimpressive.
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And then you realize Darnold has had 1 GWD in his last 3 seasons. Carr had 15 GWD in the last 3 seasons. Carr has had more GWD in a single season than Darnold has had in his 5 year career. Darnold isn't close to being on the same level as Carr when it comes to pulling out wins when the team breaks down with defense, the running game, and coaching. The Raiders win 3 games if they get lucky with Darnold at QB in 2022. Darnold is not the type of QB that can turn losses into wins consistently against NFL defenses.
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Shea Tierney over Mike LaFleur for OC. Brian Daboll has been capitalizing off of Tierney since the national championship game with Alabama (Tierney was there with Saban before Daboll arrived and Daboll took this football genius with him). Tierney has been behind the success of Brian Daboll, Ken Dorsey, Nick Foles, Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa, Josh Allen, and Daniel Jones. I would want him as HC, but he needs a couple seasons as OC and demonstrate he can create an immediate impact in that role like he has for all the instant success for the others he has touched. For now, pairing him with Kafka as HC is the best move. I see Kafka being an Andy Reid type HC and Shea Tierney being a cross of Bill Walsh/Bill Belichick type HC. Without Kafka and Tierney, I believe Daboll falls back down to earth. Daboll put Dorsey in place with the Bills to prep Tierney for his future OC. He gives Kafka (who was prepped to be OC for Reid) his shot at OC to help develop Tierney even more for OC. Tierney has been prepping for OC under Daboll for 5 years. If you want an immediate improvement on offense, you give the HC position to Kafka if he brings Tierney with him as OC. Then trade Kafka to another team when Tierney is ready to be HC. Same plan I suggested when the Panthers went to the SB; Trade Rivera's contract for what you can get and promote McDermott. Tierney in 2 to 3 seasons will give you the best of Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, and Chip Kelly. You will have a young coach who is a crossbreed of 4 coaching trees and can find and develop QBs at will on the college or NFL level. He has the perfect combination of psychology, data analytics, game planning, development, and scouting. Kafka-Tierney combo with Tierney moving up as the HC in time will lead a team to a dynasty. If I got my way I would put Sean McVay, Mike Kafka, and Shea Tierney in a room. McVay moving to a GM role, Kafka as the HC, and Tierney as the OC. Eventually, McVay would take a Co-GM role with Tierney as Co-GM/HC after Kafka's rights are traded to another team. I hope the Panthers don't miss another rare window while watching another team benefit from getting it right.
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David Carr, Derek Carr's older brother, was a Panther in 2007. He started 4 games. That was the year Jake Delhomme had his injury. Injuries plagued the Panthers QBs that year and the Panthers went through Delhomme, Carr, Testaverde, and Moore. Derek Carr is a good option at QB. In 6 wins this season he had 4 GWD. That is a potential 4 losses he managed to rescue. The Panthers QBs in 2022 only had 1 GWD against the Saints to end the season. If you were just to swap out Carr for Baker, Darnold, and Walker, the Panthers record goes from 7-10 to 10-7. If you swap out Wilks for Rhule to start the season, the Panthers go from 10-7 to 11-6. If you have CMC and Bozeman starting together for the Panthers all year, the Panthers go from 11-6 to 13-4. Carr is definitely an option for a championship minded team/front office. Carr was respected more than McDaniels in Vegas and it showed with how McDaniels handled that team. Carr is a better fit with a respected coach like Wilks, Rivera, or Reed. We all know the Raiders front office is a clown show. A good option, but not the best option.
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So, SB Championship player = $18.3M dead cap for 2023, $12M free, a top of the 3rd, 4th and 5th round pick in 2023 and a 6th round pick in 2024. With this FO, that means they will sign a Robby Anderson type player, Foreman... while drafting players like TMJ, Troy Pride, Daviyon Nixon, and Deonte Brown. Would you trade CMC for Anderson, Foreman, TMJ, Pride, Nixon, and Brown? Would you trade a SB MVP for a #3 deep threat with poor hands, a journeyman power back who can't catch, a rookie WR who needs 4 seasons to develop, and 3 players who will be cut or never see the field? How much are you willing to pay to win a SB? The Rams, Bucs, and Chiefs didn't go bargain shopping for their SBs. The 49ers may likely be the 4th to pay up for the players necessary to win a SB. Hardly a win-win. The Panthers had a known weapon in CMC. Now, this FO is just hoping to win the lottery.