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Can’t believe we are sitting in a position to be division leaders on 12/15. Weird, very fun, sometimes maddening season.

I'm rooting for the stadium to implode midway through the fourth quarter. I still get to ignore my girlfriend because football is on until she goes to bed, both teams and their fans are wiped off the planet, and Panthers take the division. Win, Win, Win.

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For you it doesn't, for me it doesn't because we don't like (we hate) Notre Dame. But you are wildly underestimating how many Notre Dame fans are in this country, who would tune into to NBC every weekend to watch them play Northwestern, Purdue, Maryland, etc. And that's a huge reason for the Big 10 to consider it - money, eyeballs, and recruiting. Notre Dame would never pursue the SEC. Notre Dame doesn't want to run the risk of losing to the 8th thru 13th place SEC teams, like a Tennessee, LSU, Florida or Auburn which could absolutely happen to the Irish on any of those teams "good days". See Florida beating Texas this year.

I agree with you in theory. In practice the ACC doesn't gain anything by crapping on Notre Dame. This year, the ACC was the benefactor of NC State, Syracuse, Pitt, and Miami being on Prime Time linear (which is still massive compared to streaming) network TV BECAUSE of Notre Dame. You could maybe argue that Miami could get on Prime Time anyways because of who they are, but they were in the opening weekend ONLY game on SUNDAY mostly because they were playing Notre Dame. I work with a ton of dipsh*ts, and self-absorbed assholes in entertainment, and while I'd love to tell them to fug off, I realize the reward is worth the tolerance needed to reap it. I think the ACC is in the same boat with Notre Dame. The last thing you want to do is piss off Notre Dame and have them take their ball, go home, and call the Big 10 to be their new "friends". Then every ACC game is on the CW Network, or the 11am kick on ESPNU. That's significantly less money, brand visibility, and recruits looking at schedules to see how often mom, dad and grandparents can see them play.

I'd like to see coaches and AP writers (who are largely conference / regionally affiliated) all give each other the "wink wink" to not vote Notre Dame into their top 25s next year during any part of the season. Notre Dame's schedule next year doesn't give them a chance to post a "good win" until Nov 7th vs Miami, assuming Miami is good again. The opening CFP rankings generally mirror the AP / Coaches polls at the time. Would be a nice way to make sure Notre Dame starts at the back of the pack and has as hard a time as possible getting up to 12.

Yea, I mentioned this earlier in this thread. BYU gets blown out, drops a spot. Bama gets blown out, doesn't move. OSU loses a close game, drops a spot.

No chance. TV holds too much power in all this too.

He had a great game against G'Town, and obviously hit a huge shot against Kentucky. I like the chemistry of him coming off the bench. Could see him developing into a starter, and shoots it with the confidence of one already. I'll be interested to see what this team does against a decent Ohio State team in Atlanta. If they win that game, they should be 13-1 going into the SMU game here in Dallas. That would be a helluva start.

Oregon -20.5 opening line. Hahaha. Easy money. Oregon's 4th string would beat JMU by 21.

Have been pleasantly surprised with how good Veesaar has been this year. Equally as disappointed with how underwhelming Stephenson has been this year. Wilson continues to be a beast.

Tarheels shoot way too many threes for how much size we have over most teams. Get Veesaar, Stephenson and Wilson near the rim and finish.

Didn't even think of that angle, very good point. Completely different feeling, ending, interactions after what you KNOW is your last game vs what you THINK is just another game.

Outside of it just looking petty, I have never understood a coaching staff who turns down the ability to get in 15 extra practices and have game tape on guys who might not have gotten a lot of playing time in the regular season. I was furious when Hubert Davis turned down the NIT the year Carolina missed the tournament for this reason alone. Speaking of Carolina hoops, tip off vs G'Town in 3 minutes on ESPN. And to keep this football related, thank god that season is over.

Happy to be playing for something in December. Also reminding myself this is the Panthers.

I agree the best part of the playoffs is potential upsets. That's any sport. But letting Tulane and JMU in the CFP would be the equivalent of letting Ohio State and Indiana play in the NFL playoffs. They would both get beat by 4 or 5 TD's, no matter who they played.

Agree. If Virginia wins last night, the ACC has a team in, gets $ for participating and Notre Dame is in. You can't have a Power 4 conference without representation in the CFP, even if said conference was complete trash this year.

I'd start strategizing what you want to do for each game's second half when it's 35-7 at halftime.

I missed it. I turned the channel after Kirk Herbstreit said "the CFP should be the twelve best teams, and who knows, maybe Tulane and James Madison will prove to be one of those". Hahaha. Bunch of bitch-made talking heads scared to say what they really think. I want to see what McAfee says tomorrow. He's made his whole skyrocket rise by bucking the system, he should have the head of the CFP on tomorrow and just destroy the whole process. Saban was the only one who spoke up that Tulane and James Madison shouldn't be in, imagine what he would've said on air if Bama had been left out.

As I tell my team at work, "hope isn't a strategy".

The whole process is bullshit. Notre Dame was "better" than Miami 6 days ago, nothing change for those two teams, and now Miami is "better". Alabama gets whipped in the conference title game, stays put. Ohio State barely loses their conference title game, drops a spot and now gets Georgia in the semis instead of Texas Tech. Wouldn't have mattered, but BYU also dropped a spot after losing in the same fashion Alabama did. Bama is lucky Saban works for ESPN. Ole Miss already beat the brakes off of Tulane. James Madison's team watch party looks like a scene from Wolf Of Wall Street with all the 5'10 white guys in there. I'll set the combined spread for Oregon and Ole Miss at -62.5.

Dear Oregon and Ole Miss, Please beat the dogpiss out of James Madison and Tulane (again for Ole Miss), so the CFP can change this rule and stop this mockery of letting these junior varsity teams in the CFP. Sincerely Yours, Football Fans

Va Tech fires Brent Pry in September and then Franklin hires him back as DC this weekend. What a weird, ironic, confusing situation.

So now what..... If Championship Games shouldn't hurt your ranking, Ohio State should still be #1 tomorrow, right? If you drop Ohio State tomorrow for losing as close a game as possible, then you have to drop Alabama as well for getting blown out. If you don't drop Alabama tomorrow, then you can't drop Ohio State. If you drop them both, Alabama lost @ Florida State, Miami won @ Florida State, Miami should be in. I love that literally no matter what the CFP does tomorrow, they are completely f*cked, and you can easily punch holes in ANY rankings they put out. Bunch of clowns, deserve to be blasted.

Agree, kinda. The bigger "cupcake" move was the soft defense that gave up three huge runs consecutively in overtime for Duke to score a TD.