WOW!!

I have to disagree.. He did that 1 season.. Howell was doing those types of numbers for 3 years.. Even in a down year "regression" he had 30+tds..

Does anybody know wtf is going on?? And why this is even a topic.....

Why???? Maannnnnnnn!! They about to do something stupid...

This is what I've seen also..

I don't and most I read don't even see Pickett at 12 or in the 20's is my opinion.. I agree if it comes down to a QB and Cross .. I might want to trade down 1st.. But if forced then I only look at Wills really...

I don't think all 3 are.. I only said Neal and Ikownun.. Cross is good but at the point I'd rather trade down and then look at QB, Cross or Penning..

If they trade up for a Qb in this draft based on workouts.. smh I really can't defend anybody in this organization anymore...

But like always this board falls in love with pro days and underware works outs..lol

Great point.. But my plan includes us drafting a generational LT in the process.. Instead of missing out on 1 and take a "big swing" at clearly lower rated QB prospects.. Yau'll can act like it's a smart move but it isn't.. Reaching for clearly not a top 10 prospect and passing on a position of need with a player clearly rated to be a top 10 prospect is stupid... I only gave a option with low assets used and low risk to get the same type QB prospect and still get the top 5 LT.. And that's crazy??

Are you.. I'm still trying to figure out where you're based your opinion on..

And the crazy part Is @Growl thinks Wills/Pickett/Corral are elite.. With no facts based off of pro days and highlights videos.. All while almost every professional scouts doesn't have 1 of them as a top 20 prospect... But I'm playing cute with the position??

He's had 2 games of nfl film... Hes been in the league 2 years.. We gave up more for Darnold after 3 years and 20+ games of film... And again I only said a 4th or lower pick.. Some of you want to give up a 2nd for Baltimores backup... Or way more for Minshew.. Really??

Your opinion based on nothing.. Thank you..

This guy was rated as the same prospect as the QB in this class and you don't have to spend a top 10 pick in him... Yeah I know it's crazy to get a similar player for a lower price..

Are you seriously sitting here and not seeing what actual analysis and scouts are saying?? You just choose to ignore the overall all message here.. General consensus.... https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2022-nfl-draft-big-board-top-50-prospects-w0/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2022-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-2-0 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/nfl-draft-prospects-2022-player-rankings-big-board/smvhiguv7ldoddglayxdpe15 Most scouts and analysts don't have a QB as a top 20 prospect.. If they are shooting up boards it's based on.. Desperation not the film and resume of that player... If a player is being pushed up based on a scripted pro day in there underwaer (made to make them look good) then you fuged up as a football scout...

Yeah that is the worst.. Or none of these QB beat out Darnold in TC so you don't get to see enough of the young QB to make a decision in next year class..

Low effort commitment based on the available options and the situation on the ground.. I'm looking at the better play based on professionals opinions .. You're looking at big swings based on desperation and gut feeling.. Which is better??

That's exactly what you want to do... You want to over draft a lower rated prospect based on desperation and positional value.. How is that not getting cute with the QB position?? Do you think the saying "take a big swing" means you're making the most sensible move??

Which is why .. I said low compensation is very important in this option.. A 4th or lower pick.. On a former 1st round talented player with 3 years left on a rookie deal is a low risk option... And the same Greenbay staff thought well of him enough to use a 1st round pick on him... So obviously they like the talent..

This is crazy ... You're still not out of QB purgatory even if you draft 1 of these QBS.. By most scouts and analysts opinion.. Same question what's the worst that can happen.. Love and Darnold suck!! But you have the foundation for a dominant Oline and a opportunity to add a higher rated QB in a (by most professional opinion) a better QB class.. Instead of looking for 2 high valued position next year you might be only looking for 1..

That's cool.. But my argument is ...I like this situation over that situation based on analysis and risk reward percentage... That's all I was saying.. The scouts could be wrong but I'm more willing to bet they did their work and their observations are better then some internet GM gut feeling..

How am I changing any subject?? Not 1 time in this thread did I say LT are just as valuable as QBS.. I said and showed that LT is 1 step down so positional value difference isn't that great.. Mlb, RB, Guard compare to QB ?? Okay then you take the QB.. BUt LT is considered by most to be a top 10 draftable position in the value chart.. I have not and will not say any QB in this draft is on the same level prospect wise as Trey Lance and most of the football world agrees.. So again what argument have I changed?? I still think a 4th or Lower round pick for Love and a 6th pick on Neal or Ikownun is a better option then "taking a big swing" at any QB in this draft.. Where did I change the argument??

I poo on Minshew because availability + price to get him + what your getting = doesn't add it to a low risk high reward move...

Cool.. They were rated higher and should have been successful.. Due to their on failing not their talent level they failed.. But if we're debating the percentage of the scouts and analysts being right in this situation to being wrong.. I go with the professionals every time over internet Scouts ... If you don't believe in general consensus by the professionals then who opinion do you post about??

Strawman argument.. You don't have to do it because these QBs are not nearly the same prospects.. You would have to do it if they were.. I still think Trey Lance is as sure fire as Lawrance and even more so then Wilson.. And I said that LT is a step down form QB and showed that financially teams feel the same way as LT are in the same price tier range as Pass Rushers and CBS... So you again trying to put words in ppl mouth to get internet points won't work...smh You have no idea either.. You don't get paid nor do you work in any scouting department.. So I guess we're in the same position... I'm the one here who is reading in between the lines and see what the ppl who actually do get paid to scout and rank players are saying... If you choose to ignore that.. Not my fault.. But don't act like you're some out of work football savant.. Who know more then anybody here or the actual analysis and scouts.. Just because you think you know better then the professionals and know these QBs in this class are worth a top 10 pick doesn't mean they are or thought of that way...