MillionDollarCam

I do not envy Ottawa’s situation. You have a guy who wants a contract similar to Timo Meier and neither you or any other team in the league want to give him that contract. So what are your options, 1) basically give him away on the trade market or 2) let him play out his $9M QO this year but see all your cap space go down the drain. Fun times in Ottawa.

Since we’re on the topic of local Canes reporters, I like Chip, he doesn’t really break any news but he provides good updates and such.

I do get the notion of not setting yourself up for disappointment though and many are like that; but after the Muller days, then the Peters days, it’s going to take a lot more than a Russian hockey player bailing on the Canes to disappoint me.

I have no financial or business stake in whether Tarasenko signs with Carolina or not lol. So I can happily choose to believe he’s coming here until proven otherwise and if he doesn’t then oh well.

Not hung up, but I know who to and who to not get my news from regarding certain teams. Just like I know not to go to the dentist for a colonoscopy. Have a little faith and patience or doubt that it happens, it doesn’t bother me one way or the other.

As @philit99 said, there could be multiple things going on in the background. There’s the Pesce situation, the EK situation, the TDA situation. Patience is key, I keep seeing people say this won’t happen and that won’t happen then GMDW goes out and does it. Let Waddell cook y’all.

He’s right to the sense that Tarasenko hasn’t signed with Carolina yet but that doesn’t make Shayna wrong. No offense to Adam and WRAL Sports but Shayna and The Athletic are more plugged in lol. Shayna is also based out of NY so she very well could have gotten this from the Rangers or Tarasenko’s camp. But Gold is saving face right now because he wasn’t able to get the scoop.

Not really. Drury only played last year because of injuries, people forget that he started in Chicago. He hasn’t been as impressive as he was when he first came up. And if we did have to move a forward then he’s probably gone since he did request a trade last year.

And people will say you can’t put Orlov on the third pairing, that’s fine then lol, put Skjei there. You wouldn’t find a better d-corp than Slavin - Burns, Orlov - Pesce, Skjei - Chatfield.

Just my personal opinion but Carolina is probably in the same boat as Ottawa and trying to make a trade before signing Tarasenko. Teams can go 10% over the cap during free agency but doing so essentially negates any leverage you have in a trade. If the Canes signed Tarasenko, then traded for TDA, and then Coghlan signed his QO… we’d be over the cap by like $3.5M. At that point we have no leverage in a Pesce trade. Teams will look at our cap situation and realize that we have to trade him. At this point in time we don’t have to do anything, we can keep him as a rental if we want. I’m sure Waddell doesn’t want to go back on his word but at this point I’d sign Tank and call it. If we can move Pesce in a good deal then we can revisit the TDA trade then but I wouldn’t let that hold us up from signing Tarasenko.

So that I agree with. If they can’t trade him then they either have to lose him for free basically but at that point they can sign Tank to much more than we could.

Ottawa can only put more money on the table after the DeBrincat situation is figured out. If they sign Tarasenko to like a $7M deal then that guarantees DeBrincat is gone and they’ve lost all leverage. At that point they are giving him away. I do agree that they are probably providing more term.

No offense to that guy but he’s probably wrong. Tarasenko is probably getting a similar offer from both teams. The problem with Ottawa is that they have a ton of money tied up that’s not on capfriendly, and that’s DeBrincat’s $9M QO. They are trying to trade him but no one wants him for what he’s asking for. If it comes down to it, Ottawa will have to renounce the QO that they presented him with or just have him sign it. If DeBrincat signs that QO then their money is gone.

I do find it odd that a lot of Canes fans on Reddit and HFBoards think that Teravainen will get traded because of this. I personally don’t; his value is at all all-time low and it’s not like our organization to sell players at low prices. Now if we’re at the trade deadline and we have no intention of resigning him, I could see us trading him and then upgrading on him but I don’t think he’ll be traded any time in the near future. I still think a healthy Canes team (Tarasenko included) would like something like this: Bunting - Aho - Tarasenko Svechnikov - Kotkaniemi - Necas Teravainen - Staal - Fast Noesen - Martinook - Jarvis Drury I don’t quite understand why people want to ship out offense when we didn’t have enough of it last year. Maybe the majority of the fanbase is looking at capfriendly incorrectly but as long as the the Tank deal is 5,250,000 or less then we can fit him in.

Wouldn’t be the first time we’ve been bailed on, Marchment last year comes to mind.

He’s probably not getting signed right now. He got injured in the world championships and had to have shoulder surgery. He probably won’t be able to play until December at the earliest. Someone may add him after he’s healthy.

Going to have to start calling Raleigh, little Moscow.

I actually like Jarvis on the fourth line, he’ll get an easier matchup and you can just tell him to go out there and think offensively.

That could work if they get the retention to 55%, that’s probably where it needs to be. And then we send out Pesce and Drury.

I’d honestly consider canceling the TDA deal now. If Tank signed for $5M then we’re out of cap space. Maybe it would suck to lose Pesce for nothing but a defensive unit of Slavin - Burns, Orlov - Pesce, Skjei- Chatfield would be worth it as that defensive unit with our forwards would be good enough to win the cup.

Hahaha she’s pretty good. She only leaks info when she’s 100%. She nailed the Skjei trade a few years ago.

Must be nice.

Apparently Waddell said today that the Aho extension is close and that they are working on Skjei, he was asked about Pesce and kind of deflected. After adding Tarasenko I think we may see Pesce moved (probably for prospects and picks) and then we’ll see the TDA trade go through. Bunting - Aho - Tarasenko Svechnikov - Kotkaniemi - Necas Teravainen - Staal - Fast Noesen - Martinook - Jarvis Drury Slavin - Burns Orlov - Chatfield Skjei - DeAngelo Coghlan Andersen Raanta Kochetkov

For anyone that uses cap friendly they are starting to update things a bit, they’ve removed Rees, Ponomarev, and Rees. They have left Suzuki who can also be removed. The true number we have in available cap space is $5,320,583.