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Rod stated this past year that he spoke with a former player who said he wished he never left, many suspect it was TDA.

Right but I think the questioning here is what exactly did Carolina trade. They didn’t trade TDA himself they traded his rights, meaning he was no longer a Hurricane. I think both teams are arguing that it can’t be cap circumvention when Carolina never signed TDA to begin with last year and they didn’t trade TDA himself, just his rights, which allowed Philly to get a head start on contract negotiations since TDA was a FA.

Jesper needs to come back to Carolina so he can continue making moonshine. All things considered, he might have been our best player in the postseason.

Think our deal will still go through and the Flyers and Blues will try to work something out.

Just the NHL blocking the TDA deal for right now because they think Carolina is trying to circumvent the cap due to some rule about reacquiring a player within a year. Unless I’m reading the rule incorrectly, it shouldn’t even apply. It sounds like you can’t sign a player, then trade him, and then reacquire the same player within a years timeframe with retention. The thing is, Carolina didn’t sign TDA and trade him, they traded his rights and he was then signed by Philadelphia. It just seems like the NHL is being dicks to the Canes again.

Lolol Canes getting shafted again. Funny hill for the NHL to die on when there are teams who stash players on LTIR until the playoffs.

It looks like the snag is that this deal is going to part of like a three or four team deal and one the deals includes Torey Krug going to Philly, the problem is he won’t waive his NTC for Philly.

Great point here, Torts and TDA were a match made in hell. TDA isn’t great defensively but he isn’t near as bad as he was last year.

I’ve come to the terrible terms that I’m not sure Chatfield will be back after this year. For my money, he’s the best third pairing defenseman in the league and would slot in the top four on a ton of teams. It sucks but this is what happens when your team develops defensemen as good as the Canes do.

Honestly not sure what the plan is but I’m under the belief that TDA is coming to be a third pairing guy and help the PP. I might be in the minority but I don’t think this has anything to do with Pesce. I think you specifically go get TDA so you can bring back Pesce. I don’t think you’ll find many, if any, guys out there that can do what TDA did for us a couple years ago at a $2.5M cap hit. Last year, Staal’s and Ghost’s combined cap hit was around $10.5M, Carolina would now have Staal and TDA at a combined cap hit of around $5.5M. That just opened up $5M in cap space to give to Pesce. If I’m wrong and TDA is playing top four minutes then I’ll be right there with the rest of you guys, pitchfork in hand, marching on PNC Arena. But I truly believe TDA is solely being brought in for the PP and third pairing.

LeBrun said it hit a snag but I saw a Philly insider recently say it’s been ironed out. The original proposal was: Carolina Receives: Tony DeAngelo (50% retained) Philadelphia Receives: An unsigned prospect from Carolina. Many speculated it’s either Bokk or Wall with the most likely being Wall.

Something else to consider, when TDA was QB’ing the PP two years ago our PP was ranked 13th, last year it was 20th. He’s not coming here to play top defensive minutes, Rod will give him sheltered minutes on the third pairing and he’ll QB the PP. And for those that don’t think he can be sheltered, he was +30 in his time as a Hurricane, Rod knows how to handle TDA.

For what it’s worth, the trade has hit a snag per LeBrun. I’d argue this furthers the point that this move has nothing to do with Pesce or any other defenseman. If TDA was Pesce’s replacement then the Canes would push the trade through no matter what.

Don’t think it means that at all (for this year). TDA is in the same boat as Skjei and Pesce, they all only have one year left on their contract. Acquiring TDA does absolutely nothing to fix the problem of not having any second pairing defenseman under contract for 2024. I definitely think Pesce gets extended, Skjei probably just walks, and TDA might get extended after the year is over if he plays well.

Chatfield played his off side a good amount last year when there were injuries and looked damn good doing it, wouldn’t have any concerns with him playing the left side. I also imagine the 7D will be a lefty that can rotate in.

Phew, the US has no depth. What a terrible result. I can’t point out one player that I thought had an above average game.

So it sounds like the trade will be: To Carolina: Tony DeAngelo (50% retained) To Philadelphia: Kevin Wall Keep in mind Philly gave Carolina a 2nd, 3rd, and a 4th for TDA.

I think those last two years are going to suck but Jordo should be good for the first two.

I’d be shocked if they inked Aho this offseason. A lot of money is coming off the books next year, it doesn’t make sense to extend him yet.

We have a poo ton of available money. With Staal’s and Tony D’s contracts factored in, we have right around $21M in space. Throw Pesce in there at $5M and we are down to $16M. Svechnikov - Aho - ??? Teravainen - Kotkaniemi - Necas Martinook - Staal - ??? Noesen - Drury - Jarvis Rees Slavin - Burns Skjei - Pesce Chatfield - DeAngelo ??? ??? I’d factor in $2M for the backup goalie $4M for the starter $3M for the 3LW $7M for the 1RW

Another reason I’ll guarantee this has nothing to do with Pesce is because Tony D only has one year left on his contract. The Canes aren’t foolish enough to move Pesce and replace him with a guy who’s in the same situation he’s in. Tony D is a quick fix for our PP, take it to the bank. The defense will be: Slavin - Burns Skjei - Pesce Chatfield - DeAngelo Ghosts cap hit to play on the bottom pairing was $4.5M, TDA’s will be half that at $2.5M.

Unlikely, the retention makes it very likely that Pesce will be back. If the Canes took TDA’s full cap hit then I’d be concerned but the Canes are just going back to what they know works on the PP and that’s Tony D. It’ll be: Slavin - Burns Skjei - Pesce Chatfield - DeAngelo

Looking like Carolina will send a prospect to Philly for Tony D at 50% retention, that’s a great trade.

Not sure this has anything to do with Pesce especially since Philly is retaining 50%. Remember, Tony D is a righty and the only player that really played their off side at any point last year was Chatfield. There’s no way our organization sees him as a top four defenseman. I think we could see a defensive unit of: Slavin - Burns Skjei - Pesce Chatfield - DeAngelo DeAngelo was great on our PP and the organization probably wants him back to jump start it again.

That was anticlimactic. Time to flip over to the US game.