Mr. Scot

There's this from a guy who seems to be associated with Roaring Riot...

Don't know if these are all official (I've seen tweets from Hurst and Williams confirming their numbers) but from what I've seen, all of these are currently available.

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Who?

The roster on the team's site doesn't show numbers for any of them, figured that would be the most accurate place for that information.

The roster page is a little slow to update sometimes. Honestly the site in general can be.

2 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

He's going to the Panthers at

You're really trying to live up to the Boogeyman name, aren't you?

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

who was Cam's QB coach for the first two years and how many years experience as a QB coach did Dorsey have before becoming Cam's?

As I recall, the only experience Dorsey had prior to becoming Newton's quarterback coach was working as one of our scouts.

Would he have been as good as he is now if he'd been allowed to really coach? Don't know, but I do know Rivera overall just wasn't good for Newton.

To be honest, at this point I think Dorsey's a little overrated as a head coaching prospect, partially because he's using Allen in much the same way Rivera used Newton. It won't surprise me if that ends up shortening his career.

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s that all it would have taken? Next year’s first and 25’s 2nd?

Word was the asking price for #3 wasn't significantly different than the asking price for #1.

Given that, why settle for #3?

1 minute ago, jayboogieman said:

@frankw

 

Just now, OldhamA said:

You seem to be ignoring his game tape because you simply prefer another prospect.

Actually I'm more ignoring the pro days.

The game tape is far more informative, and the game tape favors Stroud or Young.

I prefer Stroud, but I could live with Young.

2 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

That would feel more accurate if the fact that his quarterback coach from 2013-2017 wasn't the same guy that developed Josh Allen and is now his offensive coordinator.

Word back then was Rivera and Hurney didn't want any "hard coaching" on Newton. They were afraid of hurting his feelings.

Dorsey basically wound up being a "buddy", and there were a load of indications that Newton didn't really respect him or see him as a valid coach.

Buffalo actually let him coach however he felt he needed to.

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

Cincinnati....

Hue Jackson never gave a sh-t in Cleveland either.

Dallas and Oakland have long running reputations for getting "bad guys".

2 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Ending with massive deep bomb followed by a cart-wheel and backflip while running down to high five his receiver. Yep. The kid has the tools and the attitude. 

Falling in love with physical tools rather than pro-level quarterbacking skills is how you end up with a Trey Lance.

Smitty comments...

Just now, rayzor said:

the bigger problem is he had sucky coaches. they didn't do anything.

Pretty much.

Instead of trying to teach him to play in a pro-style system, t hey built a college style offense around him. It's possible the idea was to slowly transition him into a more traditional offense, but they just decided what they had was good enough and stuck with it.

Turner showed them that they could have worked with him on that, although maybe it would have meant him starting a little later instead of day one.

That's a trade off I'd take for a longer, more successful career.

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

you know some don't care what they get as long as they hit, catch, throw, run, whatever.

Or they go to certain colleges

57 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

I agree. Richardson to me is Cam 2.0. Athletically superior to the other QBs in this draft but a project. The difference with Cam was he not was only similarly gifted physically but the best QB in 2011 draft. This time, there are a few NFL ready QBs whose skill set are ahead of Richardson at this point. Wouldn’t have been upset at all if we considered him at #9. At the top position we gotta go with Stroud or Young.

46 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

Agree with this--Cam had a lot of in the pocket and accuracy questions from pundits, but what people couldn't argue with was the fact that he came in and destroyed the SEC by himself in 1 year. 

Richardson did not.  The fact that he didn't elevate a UF team that leaves plenty to be desired I think validates some of the questions about the raw aspect to his talent, and for me, it plays similar to Trey Lance coming out where the raw intangibles and talent were very attractive but that it's unrealized to this point makes your point about him being a great value at 9, but too much of a gamble after trading up to 1.

What you'll hear from analysts (and it's generally true) is that when you have someone like Newton or Jackson, you basically have to build the offense around their skill set. That's what the Panthers did early on.

Norv Turner switched it up and had him running a Coryell type offense, and it worked. But he was already well into his career by the time that change was made. I'll always wonder what could have been if someone like Turner had been around early on.

You'd likely have to do that with Richardson as well if you wanted him to start this early. More likely you're taking a couple of years to try and coach him up, so you don't get any immediate returns.

Stroud or Young you could much more easily slide into a WCO or E-P type system because they've already got the skills needed.

Now being reported that he wants to play for the Patriots.

That drew this response...

18 minutes ago, rayzor said:

until he proves he can't, i'm going to assume that he will just as much as any other player. because no one has been able to show a correlation between smaller players and injury frequency or magnitude. 

I get it.

Lord knows his skill set is something else.

16 minutes ago, Raleigh PF said:

What do you know? He chose my question!

That was you? Good job

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

He's still the best QB that has ever been in Charlotte

Technically the thread title doesn't say which team he'll be playing for

Just now, MHS831 said:

If he was the #3 overall pick and he has barely played a down--while 2022 Mr. Irrelevant is now inked in as the starter for his performance in 2022--I would say that is not what SF hoped to get out of him.  Bust status is probably determined when the team gives up on the player and moves him out.

Which there is chatter about them doing...

Just now, rayzor said:

i think you are probably right on the source of the info, but i'm not totally seeing what you are on Bryce. i think he'll be really stinking good.

I don't think anyone questions that he's going to be good.

What they're all worried about is whether he can stay healthy.

21 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Young and Stroud would make me feel good about the QB future right away. 
Richardson would have me concerned and worried from the get-go we just wasted 2 first round picks on a QB that is rawer than I like my steak. 
 

You never take the guy who needs to be taught quarterbacking skills over the guy that already has them.

I don't care how big, strong or fast he is.

14 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Would you consider Lance a bust if he hasn’t really played much at all?

I'd say there's a reason for that (and not just the injury)

There might not be enough info to call him a bust yet but things don't seem to be trending in the right direction.

8 hours ago, DavidEng said:

INSIDER SCOOP!!!

My childhood buddy Booger Thompson is dating a gal who is neighbors with the cleaning lady for a cousin of GM Scott Fitterer. The cleaning lady overheard talk the Panthers are definitely gonna pick CJ Stroud!

Since I know Boogers rumors almost never are true, then that makes it almost a certainty Bryce Young will be the choice!

So it's Will Levis then

20 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Please direct all your anger and hatred to Scott Fitterer and co. 

The Panthers are posting threads on The Huddle?