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Heat could be conditioning or well...."lack of proper hydration" if you get my drift. Scourton should not be having heat related issues given that he played at A&M. Now, that is unless he has had a history of that. That's the one thing about that, the more it happens to you, typically the worse it gets.

Well they did move the goalposts at WR and that largely fuged Smitty and others. I would also point out that after 30 years we do just have 7 winning seasons and we are quickly descending down the all time franchise winning percentage ranks(26th). Our fans had a lot of pride back in the day, the franchise has pretty much sapped that out of the bulk of the fanbase at this point. I mean, imagine how fuging insufferable a bunch of yappy, arrogant Panthers fans would be at the moment? It would be embarrassing.

I think you are just having some selective memories. Steve Smith, Julius Peppers, Greg Olsen, Cam and plenty of others got lots of national love. We never got Dallas Cowboy QB hype but if that is what you want, you have to basically win titles and have extended periods of success to accomplish that. Remember that New England was largely a joke prior to the Belichick era. We had respect, although it was sometimes fleeting. It's most assuredly all gone now.

Somewhat true but somewhat not true. Remember the cover of Sports Illustrated and the infamous declaration of us being SB champs. During Fox and Rivera we were largely a respected team. We had household names periodically during those times. We had national respect as a tough team more often than not. Hell, we had DMVP's, All Pros and even a league MVP. We did have all that stuff. But we never got over the hump. And now, yeah, that is all gone. There is no reason at all to respect us. The sad truth is, if we hadn't traded up to take Bryce Young, we wouldn't even have anything at the national level worth even paying attention to. The franchise has worked very hard and long to descend to the level we are at now. You can thank all the hard work that David Tepper did completely deconstructing everything the franchise built for more than two decades before he arrived. So, any Panthers fan talking respect at this point. Good luck. There will be none until it is earned on the field. That's just how it is.

This has all happened before. Baby GOAT, Sam Darnold, Matt Moore, Will Grier, etc. People just want to believe in these borderline NFL players whenever there is any issue at starting QB.

Pivoting from Bryce after a disaster year(which is the only way that happens) is very unlikely to entail any sort of trade option. I mean, what "favorable contract with high upside" would there even be?

Yeah, we all hope. But that era isn't assured. Regardless, PJ Walker was a 3rd QB at best. This is an absurd thread.

I mean....I have no idea why the backup QB matters when we are still attempting to find a surefire starter.

Well TMac is in a very suspect offense and technically Egbuka is potentially a #3 WR in that offense. That is way more gamble than I would take being ranked like that in fantasy football.

Not really much of Breer's own take in that video. Seems to be largely what the coaches are saying that he is reporting. It does give some good insight into where their heads are at.

That's a massive bet on some things to really change or maybe that Godwin doesn't recover quickly. Don't get me wrong, I like that Egbuka kid a lot and he is probably going to be the ultimate replacement for Evans but that is a wild thing to say. TMac is wild too. It's assuming a lot about what our offense actually ends up looking like. AT has been the only real mildly significant fantasy WR since Bryce got here. I wouldn't bet on TMac being a fantasy stud in year 1.

12 and 14 are a bit out to lunch if you ask me. Taking a rookie that high??? Yowzer. Risky.

Even if it isn't top 10, there is absolutely zero justification for it being outside the top 15.

Was just about to post this. This authors lists are highly suspect, IMO. I am definitely not buying we are worse at QB than the Seahawks. Unless Milroe turns out to be a stud. Highly disrespectful for our RB group to be 28th. That's insane. OL at 19, I feel the same way. We should easily be in the top 15. IDL at 14 is probably a little high, TBH. DB is doing a lot of the heavy lifting there. CB at 16 is debateable. Easily could be lower. More so due to the question marks. S at 27 feels like we are getting very little credit for signing Moehrig. Now, it is a pretty awful in terms of depth.

If this line did exist, Renfrow at +21,000 MIGHT be worth $1. You gotta think there are SOOOO many factors against us even if it has absolutely nothing to do with Renfrow.

Ray Lewis did this later in his career too. It's surprising how much boxing can improve cardio. If you want a very small window into that. Put your hands up in a traditional boxing defensive stance and do that for 12 - 3 minute rounds.

Yeah, no one should hate this guy. He seems like quite the character. I am sure he is very fun.

Doomers and Sunshiners.....chill. We got 17 games to dissect this.

Yeah, never take much out of practice or preseason. Just hope you come out the back end healthy and ready to play when it actually matters.

I think we just fundamentally disagree on where he is at career wise. It was a pretty rough first year and we are in the golden age of rookie WR's showing out. To be sure he had difficulties to deal with outside his control but he still looks extremely unpolished. I am a glass half empty guy on XL and you are a glass half full guy. Hopefully we are on the same page in the 2026 offseason and it's the glass just being full.

Oh yeah, I 100% agree. The bad drafts are what digs the hole deeper and deeper every offseason. It took a lot of work to get down to where we are. Amazing really.

I think we will end up starting him. I don't think A'Shawn Robinson was bad last year but he also wasn't very good. And we invested heavily into Wharton. It would make so little sense for him not to be a starter.

That's true in theory but poor management can lead to very long stretches of poor results. The system itself IS indeed set up to have parity and allow some level of fairness in building a team. But, history has proven time and time again that it is possible to be so inept you screw that up. That's really at the back of most Panthers fans minds. Are we one of those teams now? It's not looking great.

I think Daboll's career success will prove to be a result of being with Josh Allen and the Bills rather than vice versa.