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The making him a scout team safety after he was benched the last time. There is no reason for that. It's extremely disrespectful

SNAFU

I actually think Daboll is a bad coach. The way he handled the Jones thing was pathetic.

That doesn't sound like a theory rooted in the short term futures of their GM and HC. I doubt they survive to see the end of that plan.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44723519/saints-ryan-ramczyk-retires-7-seasons-incredible-journey Saints might dip at OT instead of QB at this rate.

I think there are far more sellers in the top 15 than buyers outside it.

You are aware that he has the same general 40 time as guys like Mike Evans and DeAndre Hopkins, right? 4.5-4.6 is about what you expect for most of those big WR's. People think they are going to be Calvin Johnson or DK Metcalf but there is a reason those guys stand out, they are outliers.

I don't necessarily agree on the "BPA" element but I would not be upset about drafting him at 8. I also wouldn't be jumping for joy. I generally believe he will end up being a very poor fit with Evero's defense.

Yeah, I don't see him really becoming more than "slightly above average" at LT. It's possible because he is a high ceiling player but those guys rarely ever come close to that potential for us. Also, if he doesn't really make a big leap next season, there isn't a ton of precedent for that all of a suddenly happening after 4 years of being a starter. I do think that people are potentially not considering this fact when they talk about why he hasn't been extended yet. Not doing that does allow the team to pivot to him being an OG or RT if need be and have a completely different contract potential.

I remember this having a lot more traditional media outlets a long time ago. That list of sources is lacking.

IDK. He has never played RT and as former OL have often said, sometimes that isn't the seamless transition that fans always believe it will be. I am okay with him at whatever position he is the most dominant at, LT, RT, OG, whatever.

I don't think they ruined him. He wasn't an NFL player. He never was.

Lower floors than AR as a prospect. Now AR's floor is closer to JaMarcus Russell than it is Allen/Newton, IMO.

We will see. All I will say is that in a draft projected to have so much potential for wild swings, it's odd that almost the entire draft sphere expects us to take Walker. Makes me believe we are being very obvious.....again.

TBH, had we not went nuts at OG, I think moving him to OG would have been the play. Especially with so many top 10 draft picks in a row.

Not sure if you are aware of our long "playoff" losing streak but......

I love Bech. A guy with some speed that can actually catch the ball.

The OL overall made a massive step forward after the massive step backwards last year. I think that is largely due to top 15/20 OG's being added to the roster and stabilizing the whole unit. Also, credit to the coaching staff for taking the heat off them in various ways. I would like to snag an OT in the first three rounds but it isn't a very deep class and we have so little in the way of top 90 draft capital. Couple that with our extreme amount of needs all over the roster and I think RT will likely have to wait until next offseason to adequately address.

It was statistically one of his worst seasons but there is a lot of nuance to that. Far worse overall defense than previously and the previous "elite" chunks have always been so small. Also, Evero doesn't use him to lock down a guy 1 on 1, which is kind of infuriating.

The problem I have is even if you remove hindsight, it was just a fuging bad pick at the time too. Weak RB class, not at all BPA, injury issues.....no bueno.

I don't understand how people view Milroe and Dart better than him. Those guys have lower floors than Anthony Richardson.

If you don't expect us to dip into a weak positional class early, you must have forgotten our recent trauma. It's basically Tepper Panthers 101.

Arroyo. I would LOVE to get him. Or Fannin Jr.

It is very funny how obvious we are.

Horn has been elite from time to time but never consistently. He is the most overrated Panther by our fanbase. Now, let me be perfectly clear for the people already screeching autistically, I believe Horn is a very good CB(when healthy). I have yet to be convinced he is an elite CB. IMO, similarly to Ikey(or really any of our young players minus perhaps Brown), there is still much in the way of improvement to go. But, at least we got an almost full slate of Horn last year. I hope that continues.