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Good point. We throw shade about the contracts but Suleiman is technically the guy hammering those out. We've even seen videos of him doing it on previous Panthers Confidential episodes.

I mean, even if we started 4-0, I'm not falling for that poo again. Call me at Game 17. I want to see a full season for the first time in years.

Yeah, I am not putting my eggs in the Rhule getting canned basket anymore. Tepper might be dumb enough to keep him anyway. I would just rather have a season of something I am mildly interested in.

I don't have any fear of Baker messing up Corral. I don't think Matt is going to be made or broken by whoever is on the roster with him. I'd much rather watch Baker or Jimmy G for a season than Darnold. Even if the results aren't spectacularly better, I am just tired of seeing Darnold play here. We know what he is. It's not fun to watch the same stupid poo over and over.

I'd rather just see Corral for 17 games. No more Darnold. I don't have an issue with a cheap Baker or Jimmy G but solely on a one year deal. If possible, completely forbidden from resigning/extending them until April 2023.

I'm very skeptical of Fitterer and a lot of his moves but it's really hard to evaluate him when he is just a "Junior GM" to Rhule. It will be interesting to see how Fitterer fares once Rhule is fired.

There is no telling at this point. If it doesn't happen soon, it's gonna be a whole other can of worms, as well.

I don't think we passed on Watson, we just balked at the 100% guaranteed contract, which was probably Tepper more than Fitterer, if I had to guess. You could be right though. We will never know.

Oh that's true. That was a Hurney draft.

I mean.....I don't really believe in any QB taken that far down the draft and especially in a class that weak. But if he even became an average NFL starter, that isn't a home run, it's a grand slam. That would make Fitterer look amazing.

The difference is/was about a decade of experience. Hence why I went with the experience.

Not to mention, Fitt was literally hand selected by Rhule and Tepper....the guys rocking 82-86% disapproval ratings in these polls. Enough of Fitterers moves have backfired to make me suspicious of him. I want to see him in a traditional GM role, though. Out from under the specter of being a Jr. GM to Matt Rhule. I think if we see a couple of seasons of that, we will know if he is going to be worth keeping around.

I actually expected this to track to 90% or better disapproval. It is interesting that it roughly mirrors the Tepper approval rating. I suspected that blame was going to be: 1. Rhule, 2. Tepper, 3. Fitterer That was precisely what happened.

This poll is tracking about where I expected it to. Maybe a little less of an approval rating than expected.

Tremble and TMJ got plenty of PT last year. Tremble started 11 games, played 16 games and was in on 48% of all offensive snaps. TMJ started 3 games, played in 13 games and was in on 48% of offensive snaps. Tremble was fine, it was TMJ that was a head scratching disappointment. The issue I have with the 2021 class is that we didn't much of anything from our 1st-3rd picks. Now, Horn I like and he was injured so there is an asterisk on that statement. However, TMJ and BC were just plain not good. They were disappointing even by rookie standards. So, that is a big concern. We have to get them to develop into something, if even just quality depth guys. But a team as talent deficient as we are cannot have many bad drafts. It just digs a deeper and deeper hole.

I don't think Corral is necessary. If he just hits on Horn, Icky, Chinn and maybe Marshall he's good in my book. I don't really judge harshly on anything past the 3rd round.

Well the question was for the season, so I took it as season and not that game specifically, so I wouldn't take Horn. Not to mention, he is an almost completely unknown quantity versus a highly productive and extremely experienced guy in Tillman. He definitely wouldn't be starting over Josh Norman. Harper was a tough one. I just went with veteran over a guy that is really still pretty raw and learning. Plus, Chinn is pretty ineffective in pass coverage, so that would be a concern. To me, more so in a one season timeline than Harper's waning effectiveness.

Agree. It is entirely likely that we slow down Miller enough to not get Cam killed.

Completely agree.

That basically means you weren't paying attention. It was rare the season that Matt Stafford was not one of the best 8 QB's in the NFL. He looked like it and he played like it. You just couldn't see it because he was on a franchise that lost all the time.

DJ Moore, Robby Anderson, Shaq(technically cheating), Taylor Moton(no brainer), CMC(this was close). I don't think Burns gets in over Charles Johnson or Jared Allen. I know he is a better pass rusher but that team was top 10 against the run and I think Burns hurts more than helps as a starter. Definitely think he'd be excellent as a bench player. I couldn't put Ikey over Oher because we literally haven't seen him play. I couldn't put Horn over Norman or Tillman because they had great years in that scheme. They weren't an issue at all. Good argument could be made for Chinn over Harper but Chinn's struggles in coverage(still unresolved) could be a problem.

Pretty sure you weren't the only one with that strategy.

You could make the same argument for Fitterer, IMO. After all, Rhule technically had final say. Fitterer isn't a "real" GM at the moment.

Even more paramount when you can't attract top free agents. Whiffing on draft picks just compounds the problem more every season.

The supposedly positive posters are also rarely involved unless they are complaining about the negative posters, so it's basically the same thing. The equivalent of a co-worker literally spending 8 hours complaining about a co-worker who complains too much. It's also the offseason, so the lack of general information usually brings out the worst in the Huddle. That really never changes.