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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well Teddy is a 3 on a 10 point QB scale, so that makes trips. -
Wait until you see the deal with sign Alex Armah to.
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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Agreed. It is definitely one of the least informed hot takes I have seen. -
Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
He's tradeable in any Watson scenario. Hell, someone offer up two first round draft picks, I'd trade him for that. In most other scenarios the greater harm is to us. I also can't fathom King's choice of players. It seems so heavily weighted in our favor that it doesn't seem logical. -
Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I have been using it for years. I need to add it to Urban Dictionary. -
Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
He didn't establish him being "untradeable" he just alluded to what many people already knew, which was trading him entails a large chunk of dead cap this offseason. In the deal King proposed(which is actually fairly ridiculous, IMO) we would actually end up with more cap space free, not less. -
You don't play through a high ankle sprain or an AC separation(depending on what grade). That isn't smart for him or the team, regardless of the postion the team had been in.
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Arbitrary in what way?
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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't need to. Your dipshittery stands on it's own. -
Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Damn, Sizzlebuzz has an alt? -
fug that....can you imagine what our 2015 team could have done with our offensive line? CMC with that line still probably doesn't net many victories because he was mainly here while we have been poo(outside his rookie year). With that 2003 line on our 2015 team, Von Miller is stuffed, Cam Newton stays upright and we dust those motherfugers for a title.
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I would say it's statistically unlikely. With the contract he has, we definitely need him to be that outlier or it is going to be one of those classic Panthers flubs. I would really like to not add any more to that pile. We have two more of them currently sitting on our books as it is(3 more if you count KK's dead money). I think 2021 will be critical. If he can remain healthy, it will ease some of the pain of the price we will be paying.
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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
If it is not an injury based shitting the bed, it obviously puts the whole franchise on the hot seat. Then you go from looking like an aggressive staff, front office and owner to looking like early Dan Snyder and the Foreskins. However, if it is just one bad season and he returns to form, that would dissipate quickly. -
That is probably better off being a programmed or database thing. It would probably choke Excel.
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Oh I am in no way shape or form mad at HIM for taking that deal. Get your money. I am mad at Marty Hurney and our front office at the time for making such an unbelievably boneheaded decision. There was absolutely no reason to sign him with 2 years remaining on his deal and had we just not done that, we'd probably not be paying the ridiculous sum that we are now. But, that is Hurney 101, dump unholy money into positions of lower value or guys that don't deserve it(and this is definitely not CMC). Yeah, CMC is the second dumbest contract we have. Teddy is by far the dumbest.
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Not making it to 11 to 12 years isn't retiring early. RB's have an average career length of 2.7 seasons in the NFL. It is rare for them to play even 10 years.
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It's rarer for QB's to put up video game numbers in losing efforts than it is for RB's to put up video game numbers in losing efforts in the modern NFL. We will get to see a good example of how that works out in Los Angeles this year. Matt Stafford is a top 10 QB that has been on a dumpster fire of a franchise. I'll be curious to see how that works out. The biggest issue with RB's is that they rarely change teams in their prime, because their effective years are so unbelievably short. By the time CMC's contract is up(assuming he makes it to that), he'll likely be a shell of himself. That's just the way it goes for RB's in the NFL.
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And I would have been okay tagging him twice. At that point, you are likely past his prime and it's easy to move on. Then you take five relatively inexpensive years and have two expensive years(although less than his average contract now). Remember that CMC was a top 10 draft pick so he has actually been a top 10 paid RB in the NFL almost his entire career. That's a big downside of taking a RB in the top 10 like that. I am not advocating for jettisoning him now. It would be detrimental to what we are doing. However, if he is banged up the next two seasons, I will be rattling sabers to cut him. We can't keep investing bad money in players that can't stay healthy(see KK).
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The $8 mil was arbitrary based on looking at the salaries during that period. That seemed to really be the line that differentiated the high paid backs from the rest of the crowd. What is actually surprising is how those numbers have actually trended somewhat downward over the years. It will tick upward the next two seasons, assuming there are not restructures or cuts that happen. The issue with cap percentage is that the cap has raised significantly in the past 10 years and setting a percentage might be challenging. If you set it based on some of the top 5 guys from the 2010-2013 range, it might exclude a lot of backs in the 2016-2020 range. I don't know if you can cleanly accomplish your last bullet point only because the dataset would be MASSIVE. That would take some serious time to deduce, although it does sound like an interesting idea. I think you have to also adjust for cap percentage usage, as well.
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Let's see how that breaks down. I did this for Peppers years ago when some doofus Saints fan tried to compare Chicken Legs Jordan to him. Rushing Yards CMC: 61.7 career YPG Faulk: 69.8 career YPG LT: 80.5 career YPG Games to reach Faulk: 148(9.25 seasons) Games to reach Tomlinson: 171(10.67 seasons) CMC: 0.57 career Rush TD/G Faulk: 0.57 career Rush TD/G LT: 0.85 career Rush TD/G Games to reach Faulk: 125 games(7.81 seasons) Games to reach Tomlinson: 204 games(12.72 seasons) Receiving Yards CMC: 52.4 career YPG Faulk: 39.1 career YPG LT: 28.1 career YPG Games to reach Faulk: 81(5 seasons) Games to reach Tomlinson: 40(2.5 seasons) CMC: 0.31 career Rec TD/G Faulk: 0.20 career Rec TD/G LT: 0.1 career Rec TD/G Games to reach Faulk: 65(4.03 seasons) Games to reach LT: 4(0.25 seasons) Total Yards CMC: 114.1 career YPG Faulk: 108.8 career YPG LT: 108.6 career YPG Games to reach Faulk: 111 games(6.92 seasons) Games to reach LT: 111 games(6.92 seasons) Total TDs CMC: 0.88 career total TD/GM Faulk: 0.77 career total TD/GM LT: 0.95 career total TD/GM Games to reach Faulk: 104(6.46 seasons) Games to reach LT: 133 games(8.30 seasons) So, the biggest question will be his longevity. As you can see here, both of these guys played 11-12 years in the NFL, so he needs to be able to maintain or exceed his level of production for the next 6-9 seasons to be able to surpass their total yards or TD's. You are correct that he is quickly walking down their receiving production, although he is pretty far off the pace in rushing yardage.
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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's a purely speculative article. I honestly don't see them very interested in CMC and probably not Robby with just a year left on his deal. Not to mention, why in the world would they want to trade for Teddy's contract? That just seemed like an excuse to get Panthers fans thinking about dumping a couple of bad contracts in Teddy and CMC. I would think the Texans, assuming they have any intelligence in the front office, would be way more interested in our players on rookie deals and our draft picks. -
Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
This isn't the first idiotic take he has had on here that completely backfired on him. It's kind of his calling card. -
Screw Squatson, Give Me Your Case for Wilson
kungfoodude replied to RumHam's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's maybe the dumbest take in the last few weeks of really dumb takes. -
WR would be easy to do a side by side, similar to RB's. The pool would be equally diluted as the RB pool due to multiple players being utilized and less #1 overall WR's. DE would be a little more complex because you really have to agree on what you want to consider critical aspects of their production. Sacks are obvious, QB Pressures and Hits are important, turnovers forced, maybe tackles for loss. That needs some fine tuning before you could do a good comparison. LT would be extremely difficult. You have to rely on a lot of subjective data to get you there. PBWR, RBWR, PFF ratings, Sacks Allowed, Pressures Allowed, etc. I think OL stats are the most difficult to isolate because they operate so much as a unit that when you have the guy next to you screwing up, it might impact your play pretty considerably. I suppose DT play could be considered that, as well. It would probably be easier to judge OL/DL play on the entire unit than specific players, although pass rushers are probably easier to isolate.