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They'll both be second rounders unless we take one in the first. If we like them both like we could probably get them both.

I have dedicated a wall to this photo already. @corey_stancombe

I'm astounded, I never thought anyone would be able to compare Biz to Kobe. May want to remove him from that list, he has been selected to the NBA all-defense team 12 times which would be second all time.

One thing to add is teams can offer different amounts of garaunteed money. If a few teams are willing the garauntee the whole 3 years of the contract that will seperate them from the pack.

I found a pretty good article on his options as an UDFA now http://overthecap.com/what-can-lael-collins-earn-as-an-undrafted-free-agent/. While he will sacrifice the bonus that a drafted player gets, he gains a lot of flexibility in being able to chose a team, renegotiating his contract, and what year he hits free agency. Also he can get his entire salary guaranteed if i'm reading correctly and he won't be making that much less than a player drafted on day 3. All in all I think his agents made the best decision they could in the limited amount of time they had.

With him threatening to not sign a contract and re-enter the draft next year if drafted on day 3, it could be argued that we had a better shot of him playing for us this year with him going undrafted.

Thank you! I took a picture of that earlier and I'm pretty terrible at formatting posts on my phone.

this part of this article http://blackandbluereview.com/panthers-eyeing-lsu-offensive-tackle-lael-collins/ makes me think this could be very possible.

Russ Lande is clueless. I always thought he was pretty bad at his job until one fateful day in March in 2009 when he posted this article http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2009-03-04/mock-draft-everette-brown-climbs-top. After that I ignore about everything he ever says. I'd be shocked if the Falcons took Ray at 8 and especially if he is taken by them at 7.

If we are being honest the only one that isn't massively overrated on this board that you have listed is Jennings and that solely because he likes playing games on twitter too much.

With this constantly referred to by people in the NFL as a draft with maybe 15 "first round caliber" players. I think if you can get someone who if healthy would reportedly be a top 10 talent in Gurley you might as well do it. Success historically comes for the panthers when they have a fantastic running game and a great pass rush, and the way it's looking thats the way we would like to build this team. So if you can get someone you feel could be a top 5 running back in the league on a 5 year rookie contract I think you go for it.

If I'm only get fine a fifth I'd pump sound into my stadium all day long.