Dorian Gray

lol Jeudy is a mentally weak clown. We absolutely shouldn't give up a single asset for him.

"I forgot he was on the team my bad lmao" is the most Panthers thing ever. I've never seen anything like this.

Don't think this is shocking to anyone. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/38607758/ranking-nfl-worst-teams-2023-season-giants-patriots-panthers-bears-broncos-vikings

Yeah, that's true. That might actually be the best scenario. Definitely would want the new GM to have a chance to pick his own guy - Frank or not - heading into next year though.

You need to do them both at the same time, whenever that is. Because if you fire Fitt, then Frank might not be the new GM's preferred coach and you're already starting off a new regime on a wonky foot. You fire them both, hire the GM first, then let the GM make the coaching hire.

Full story: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article280002759.html Frustration obviously building.

Who’s that NC high school that scored over 100 points last week? That’ll look modest.

Bonus points for whoever comes closest to Tyreek Hill’s final receiving total. Might as well have some fun with it.

Rams blessing in disguise not trading their picks for Burns

People forget there was literally a SI cover asking who should be #1 between Cam, Blaine Gabbert, and Jake Locker. It was not the slam dunk hindsight people want to believe. Those of us old enough to remember... do.

Agreed. He had leadership. That's a severely undervalued commodity.

Rivera's been bad in Washington. And they've had a bad roster. That's on him, no doubt. But he did a good job here until the end, found a franchise QB, and put together a solid defense. You need great players and a coach they believe in. It was clear our locker room bought into Wilks. They didn't Rhule. They haven't Reich. And Wilks was doing this AFTER Fitt traded away our best player and with a QB room of Sam Darnold and PJ Walker. Look, I appreciate your passion and I apologize for calling you an idiot. This season sucks and I'm hot. We both want this team to be good. Respect.

My point is you need great players to win championships. Period. Trying to downplay what our past coaches have done because "they were carried" while ignoring 95% of coaches are "carried" by great players doesn't make any sense.

I love how you keep missing the point. "Cam carried Rivera" but Mahomes hasn't carried Reid. Again, got it. Your goalpost moving is impressive.

Who was beating Reid in those NFC Championships? I can't seem to remember. Something Fox. Remind me.

And Andy Reid didn't win a Super Bowl until Mahomes. And Belichick has looked like ass without Brady. And Phil Jackson never won without Jordan or Kobe. It's almost like you need to find great players to succeed.

Wonder who the coach was who drafted Cam? Or who put together that defense? Rivera had plenty of deficiencies, like all coaches do, but built a damn solid team here until Gettleman got cheap af and sold them all off. Unless you think we're luring Andy Reid here, a coach who can get the most out of our personnel was our best bet. And Wilks showed he could do that. Sorry he's not exciting enough for you.

"All wins are because of the players and all losses are because of the coaching" is certainly a garbage take, but you're entitled to it.

You literally just named the only two coaches who ever led this team to a Super Bowl. God you're an idiot. Please go away.

So he doesn't get credit for winning games he's supposed to win? Because you didn't like him? Got it.

"Foxball"? Like John Fox? Like the coach that led us to a Super Bowl? Yeah, I'd take that.

Absolutely no way of knowing that. He wasn't even given an offseason. He had to repair Rhule's disaster on the fly.

We should fire Fitt and hire Rhule's wife

Feel free to bump this if Frank ever wins anything (he won't). We should've hired Wilks, and rode with Darnold + DJ + future draft capital. This is an absolute dumpster fire and lays squarely on David Tepper.

Terrible Miles fumble, terrible Bryce INT, terrible defense. How does Tepper continue to sit around and think this is okay?