mav1234

Wish PJ the best, and hope he surprises me

I see we've reached the "mods just trolling posters" period of the season

I'd love to see what he has, tbh. It's not like PJ is our answer at backup let alone starter. Ofc if Darnold is ready that's a moot point.

A lot of reporting early was he had a decent shot at playing Sunday. It isn't unheard of for that to happen.

So we're expecting PJ walking to go from being unable to complete 5 passes to ... Throwing 5 TDs?

I think Sam has a future as a backup for a decent team honestly. We're on the hook for his salary so IF I could trust this staff not to rely on him, I'd say just leave him be because he'd be a decent backup behind whomever we draft or trade for (altho I don't know if I trust this staff to evaluate QBs...)

2.7% vs 3%... Not really a big upgrade. But he would have better receivers here. I dunno tho, I just feel like he'd get crushed here. I was hoping Seattle would pick him up and he could back up Wilson when be came back, get a shot at the Superbowl...

I do love Cam, and his running ability would really give teams some fits. But he's maybe the only QB with a higher percentage of badly thrown balls last year than Darnold, and while I think he's objectively an upgrade.... I don't see it as a huge one unfortunately. But if CMC is back, it'd be intriguing to see what those two could do together.

I was thinking Daniel Jones, but he isn't at the bottom of the dumpster so I suppose those two make sense

Oh I remember the 2014 and 2015 playoffs very well. But what do they have to do with Jake??

They can be and are. That's basically all a bunch of us are saying. The offense is playing bad and there's lots of reasons they can all be true, all interact simultaneously

I don't honestly care about his salary. We will have a lot of cap room next year. Darnold was a mistake but I also understand the logic. Plus, not really being sure on Stafford myself didn't matter since he correctly saw LAR as more of a competitor than we were. I just wanted a long term solution at QB.

I meant cost in draft picks rather than salary. It was less about him specifically and more thinking we would be needing several years to really be competitive... and by then his window would be closing. It's why I wanted someone younger... (Watson pre allegations, or Fields lol)... I didn't think we would be as far along on D as we are now.

Unfortunately top 3 is not hard to make given the distance between 2 and everyone else. I mean, Beuerlein had one incredible season with us, so there's that. Lol.

I was a little worried about Stafford's price tag given his age and my perception of when we could compete... But the people that didn't think he was very good? Yeaaah... As to Rivers, I'd take him in a heart beat for the rest of the year if that's what he wanted.

I agree completely... The offense is just playing poorly... and tbh, some of these problems predate our losing streak... Its as if the people blaming "hospital balls" for the WR play just ignored everything being said about our WR group's hands in preseason. this has been a persistent problem, and I think it points at something far outside whether the WRs like Darnold or not. nor is this excusing Darnold being bad, lol, but we can also acknowledge that a group that was supposed to be one of our strengths is not turning out that way. last year DJ had the same number of drops he'd had in his first two years combined. there's something off with coaching / preparation imo (this is not me blaming Brady, as I have no clue what is going on there).

I agree he isn't a dominant runner, but the hit that actually knocked him out of the game was basically a blown block and not the guy in front of him. In this case, he was trying to get the first down and I respect that effort. In general, Darnold slides and doesn't take unnecessary hits - many of his runs have ended that way. Obviously we all wish he hadn't taken this hit (perhaps save for the one poster I usually respect that felt the need to call him expendable in a thread about his injury... heh).

Terrible tragedy, wow.

People used to poo talk Cam all the time for not sliding, too. Cam eventually got better at that aspect of things but I never saw him give up before a first down marker.

Eh, that's not true. Teddy had plenty of defenders and supporters midway thru the season that complained about our OL and red zone playcalling. After his first few weeks we also had lots of threads about finally finding our QB etc... A few posters were upset at his arm strength and a couple of is didn't think he was clutch enough to win games when the pressure was on, but he looked good early.

Clausen didn't have a few good games to build good will, lol

Honestly my problem with Teddy was different from most posters here but I think him speaking out against the staff at points is what did him in. As to the OL, Erving is probably better than Christensen now but long term we know he isn't the answer so I wish this staff would let their tackle they'd drafted play... He was hit or miss tbh but the OL as a whole is also better than when he last played. Just seems that we are stuck in a weird place with personnel on offense.

I must have missed it but who actually called Darnold expendable after the injury? That's some shitty stuff to say.

I think all of us are prone to comparing our QBs to Cam, but really he was something else in so many ways. Allen had fire... I personally think Darnold has gotten animated too. I think the difference between those guys and Cam is that we didn't see them being dejected at tough times etc. But I don't think that is indicative of not caring about winning... Just a different demeanor. And plus by all accounts Darnold is a leader in the locker room. I don't think people are just paying him lip service, either. Unfortunately for his, his issues on the field mean it doesn't much matter how nice a locker room presence he is (although perhaps that portends a future role as a veteran backup for some young QB we draft...).

Cam also matured while in the league with regards to losses in general. I didn't love the lack of maturity he showed at times, but he was a very young man at the time, and it is better than the alternative of not caring... That said, can you explain the second sentence? Darnold may not be as emotional as Cam but he certainly seems to get fired up, and I have no evidence he doesn't care about winning... It "feels" like Darnold shows more fire than Teddy did but that may not be accurate either (just in terms of getting excited after big plays etc)