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It still is very telling that Rhule went from saying KRob should've gotten a look much sooner in the season as a starter last year once things had got out of hand and he played him, to him barely getting burn with 3s in the preseason, then getting cut, signed to PS, and cut again. I said it during the Pats practices, but he clearly just did not like him and didn't want to play him over his guys. Look, I liked what we saw early from Sam Franklin, but outside of ST, the more he played, the more he got exposed. And I don't think Chandler should even be on an active 53. He just isn't very good. But they're Rhule's guys. And when healthy, Burris started the last two years, and now he's cut. It makes very little sense... I didn't really care for Burris, but my point is, they supposedly thought he was better than Franklin, Chandler, and KRob the last two years, and now he's suddenly not. And they think Franklin and Chandler are better than KRob, even though Rhule admitted he had a bright future and should've gotten more PT before he finally gave it to him at the end of last season... and now he's gone. And as I've said before, it's crazy, because he has always produced snd Mads big plays when he was given the opportunities. So either it's Rhule's extreme loyalty to his guys, or KRob has an off-field issue like attitude or something, but I never got that vibe off of him from all that we know. I just think they kept him around because of familiarity.

I'm not gonna lie, BP, I didn't read all the way through because as soon as I saw the title, my frustration from this summer bubbled up and I had to use the thread to get it off my chest... My apologies. So, I went back and looked and I agree with your premise and proposal. Hayward will never be healthy a full season, and even if he is, he is now entering the later half of his career, so his production, alrhough still good to very good, will likely never be what it was before. And Plumlee to me never made sense. He is a dinosaur in the modern NBA, and his contributions at best, are extremely limited. Dump them for Russ, then have the cap room moving forward to keep adding around Melo and the emerging young guys. I would be a lot more excited about that for 2023-24 than I am for what we're walking into 2022-23 with.

Cool story, but I'm still over here like...

I hate to be that guy, but unless someone takes a monumental leap in development, our season is shot. I don't think Westbrook changes that one way or another... Only thing I'm really looking forward to is watching the young guys get burn. I'm interested to see McDaniels in an expanded role now as well, because of Miles' absence... but, Thor, Kai, Bouknight, and Williams getting a ton of burn with Melo is really all I feel excited about. Between us giving away lottery picks and the Miles situation and then sitting on our hands all summer, we pretty much shat the bed this offseason about as bad as we possibly could have, all while teams we were vying to move up in the East with upgraded and got better. Sadly, for the first time in a few years, all my hopes are riding on the Panthers season (as long as Rhule stays out of the way), because our offseason really couldn't have went much worse.

It sounds to me like Baker is telling the truth. I think she was looking to break something big and blew up a benign co-sign that she created to try to do it. Also, if I'm not mistaken she is fairly new to beat reporting and/or reporting in general... as long as I've been aware of her, she was a analytics/betting specialist on ESPN and then NFLN. When I saw the report and it cited her as the Browns best reporter I was like, "WTF? When did that happen?" As long as I've been seeing her on TV, she has NEVER broken stories, she strictly covered the analytics and betting stuff. So it seems to me like she was trying to get a story off... I dont think it was malicious or anything. I do believe she wanted to attention of breaking it, but I genuinely believe her that it stemmed from her excitement for Baker getting the opportunity to reestablish himself as a top QB in the league and they were likely just having off-the-record small talk and she wanted to get a great one-liner out there. And iirc, Baker said earlier that he's known her a long time, so it sounded like they had a friendly relationship prior... but, after this? She might've ruined that.

Would like some updates on how Piniero looks. Curious why they haven't mentioned anything...

Welp, that was anticlimactic.

Burris was cut.

Honestly, probably the best we can do. I hope he comes in confident and maintains that 86% career fg percentage.

The man. The myth. The legend. He is back. I think the other thread served as an impromptu seance. Welcome back, SCP. YOU HAVE BEEN MISSED! And kicked the door right back in with 10/10 quality poo references... never missed a beat. Very few posts make me laugh out loud nowadays, but SCP always delivers.

Leatherwood is horrible.

NGL, I feel like that was the least suspenseful final cuts ever (after the trades). Pretty much exactly what most of us suspected would happen across the board.

Really wondering why we haven't heard anything about kicker since the workouts yesterday?

Maybe they think if they keep all 6 that when need be, they can all morph into a TE Megazord, Power Rangers-style. Thus making one uber-talented TE instead of 6 mediocre ones, and it would save 5 roster spots.

That's it? Wow. I thought his value was higher.

And honestly, I feel like KRob got a bad rap from the beginning with Rhule. Rhule constantly talked sout both sides of his mouth with him, and he just never got a real chance, imo. And he damn sure should be on the roster before Chandler.

Hello!

Lol. Mrs.Rhule won't be denied.

Welp. That's probably the end of that.

Wow. Was never sold on him from college but knew he had potential. Surprised they moved in that quickly from a 3rd round investment though.

We need to get him, but I don't think we will show any interest.

Didn't we bring him in for a tryout last year?

I think it was posted elsewhere in then merged in this thread somewhere, but I believe it was a conditional 6th and 7th in '23 and '24, respectively, IIRC.

I have to disagree. We damn sure didn't get abused on the Baker or Gilmore trades. Depending on how he plays this year, we probably won the Henderson trade as well. I don't count Darnold on Fitt because it apparently was pushed for mostly by Rhule and has been very different from the other trades we know were sought out and initiated by Fitt and the FO, in terms of compensation contrasted with the actual player's value. And finally, I think if you look at the roster Fitt has built, it is quite possi ly the deepest/most talented roster from top to bottom we have ever fielded... so he is killing it, imo. The issue is Rhule. Imagine what a Belichick, Andy Reid, Tomlin, Bruce Arians, Harbaugh, or Vrabel could do with this roster... which is why if Rhule finds a way to lose with it, he needs to go and go early and give McAdoo or Wilks a shot at becoming the guy.

Idk, I'm not gonna read too much into it, although I would tend to agree with you, but there are some guys that just know how to move when they step on the field, regardless of their measurables. And again, judging from his production so far in the pros and looking at the tape, he shows plenty short-area explosiveness to make plays.