Proudiddy

Yeah, I'm over it, bro. There is just a segment that is fixated on and determined to make Cam the problem and salivating at every opportunity for perceived failure so they can make threads like this. Lamar Jackson threw 4 HORRIBLE picks last night. But his coaching staff knew what tf they were doing and made the right decisions when the time came and their defense and run game held up their end of the bargain, as they usually always do. And yet, I don't see Ravens fans calling for his head en masse. Because they understand the big picture and appreciate his talent, even on a bad day/night. We seriously have one of the dumbest fanbases out there, period.

The OL doesn't even matter at this point. Yes, it's bad. Really bad. But it isn't much different from last season's... the difference is the league had a full year of tape on Brady and his elementary ass offense and now they know how to shut it down. We heard it all last season and through this season about our "college style" offense and defense. The problem isn't just that we are running those style systems, its that barely anyone in the building had any fuging clue or experience coaching at the professional level with any hint of success, so once the rest of the league adapted, our staff didn't. It's why you see the Dolphins yesterday, who arguably have a worst OL than us, completely mop the floor with us... why? Because they have pro-level coaches, who adapt and adjust. OL sucks and you're playing one of the top ranked pass rushes in the league? Start running college style RPOs that stretch the defense laterally and take away their ability to push upfield. They based their whole offense off of that one principal yesterday and our coaches had no fuging clue what to do. And its been happening all season. Philly, NYG, MIN, etc., all had offensive deficiencies similar to us when we played them, and every single one of them beat us by adjusting and outscheming these fuging amateurs on our staff... and yet, our staff learned nothing from any of those games. They haven't implemented any of the poo we've seen other offenses running on us. They suck at their fuging jobs and need to go. But I agree that it doesn't matter who they put back there, but not because of the OL. Until we get coaches that know what the fug they're doing, we could have a Megazord of Cam, Manning, Vick, Elway, Rodgers, and Brady in their prime back there and they will get ran off the fuging field.

I'm serious. I would be fuging ecstatic if he Petrino'd or Saban'd us right now. It would be so fuging awesome.

The offense is supposed to be predicated on timing, at least if it's based on the New Orleans offense as it has been reported time and again, and the stuff that happens just goes back to coaching. Both picks he threw were poor decisions, but they had no chance to be completed because of the coaching... on one, the defender jumped the route (and interfered) and ran through DJ to get it because they've already seen it and knew it was coming. On the other one, DJ lazily ran his route and didn't pull the defender with him as he was supposed to - Cam threw it anticipating the route combo was going to open up the route he was throwing to, and it never did. What I saw wasn't a guy that can't make the throws. It was a guy trying to throw anticipating something would open up because he was relying on the offense to do what it was designed to do... and it didn't. It never does. Because the offense schemtically sucks, is elementary, and our coaches have no fuging idea what they're doing. You saw how that entire game played out - you think Cam throwing those picks were going to matter? We didn't run, we couldn't defend, and we gave up a fuging blocked punt for a TD when we knew they were gonna send the house. Zeroing in on Cam is the least of what we should worry about. Had the rest of our team held up their end of things, then sure, it's a conversation worth having. But, once the snowball got rolling, the avalanche couldn't be stopped. Sure, it was discouraging to see, but when was the last time you saw a QB have literally every fuging throw they attempt deflected at the LOS? Regardless of what you think of his arm (and he still has plenty of zip and the ability to throw 50+ yards in the air), pass deflections by the line have to do with timing... it's like the league knows we're trying to run these New Orleans style principals, but it's like a diet version... they know when and where we're trying to get the ball out. That has nothing to do with Cam's arm or ability to throw. It's the defense knowing when and where we're trying to go with it, and Miami KNEW. He's not done. That was an atrocious outing, but tbh, as someone else posted in another thread, it honestly at this point wouldn't even matter if we had acquired Watson... he would be having his worst year ever if he had ended up here with this staff, and I guarantee he nor anyone else would've looked much better yesterday. The league has figured this staff out... both offensively and defensively and its why, combined with the players tuning Rhule out, we look progressively worse each week.

What Rhule also admitted in his explanation of sitting Cam today was, if the other team gets the lead, the game is over because we can't protect our QB when they know we have to pass, Brady can't call a game, and the defense can't stop the opposing offense when they can't commit to the pass. The end. Fin.

You beat me to it. Only thing keeping me from believing this completely is the fact Tepper built the new facility in SC. But, with the way the NFL has treated us for years now, I would not be surprised one bit if that is the ultimate plan.

Agreed. The NFL protects who they want and discards who they don't want to. All the poo Snyder has going on with thousands of emails and paper trails, and you're telling me Jon Gruden was the only guy spewing off the poo he said? You don't speak like that to someone you wouldn't be comfortable with saying it around in confidence, because you know they move and talk the same way. Yet, Gruden was the only one who answered for anything that has come out of that poo organization and he didnt even work there? It's a fuging joke. They guy he emailed hired his fuging brother as the coach, so its clear the culture there, but they didn't find any other damning evidence on anyone there with WFT? poo is laughable. There was countless reports of the sexual harassment and misogynistic environment there, with it going so far as front office guys walking around with nude pictures of the WFT cheerleaders and sharing them amongst themselves... but, the NFL told us everything is cool, so we're good now. Smh... and Snyder is still sitting pretty on his perch there. And then like you said, the stuff with Rodgers is a prime example. Dude was breaking all the fuging protocols, is a face of the league, got caught and compared himself to MLK, and within days its a non-story. They're none worse for the wear. It's like it never happened. And agreed on the stuff with Cam. Even after I posted this I thought back to the numerous examples I left out - Hochuli saying what he did to Cam and then Cam publicly sharing it about him not being "old enough" to get calls, talking about being black, young and talented, the dancing and celebrating that scared so many suburban mothers that they needed to shield their children from it, etc., Then following all of that with letting the Broncos commit everything but murder in the Superbowl, follow it up with attempted murder with repeated headshots in the season opener in '16, and then forcing JR to sell due to a matter that was only a fraction of what Snyder has going on in Washington - it's crystal-clear what has happened and what our place is in the league hierarchy.

Agreed on the Rhule hire. Disagree on the whipping boy. We definitely are, regardless of the owner. Look at the officiating week to week and how the games are called. It happened under JR and it's happening under Tepper. We are just a pawn club, used to advance the NFL's greater priorities and storylines. There is no way around it.

He honestly doesn't give a poo. The fans have been sending that message all season. We could keep sending the message for the next millennium, and he and his family will be no worse off wealth-wise. The NFL is a money-printing machine. Our support doesn't fuging matter one way or another.

I've come to some harsh, unpleasant realizations over the last few seasons, and they have all come to a head with the current state of affairs with our franchise, so here you go... NGL, JR was clearly a scumball, but the further we get from his tenure, and the more we see the dynamics on the field with our team and the things going on elsewhere in the league, it is clear we are the NFL's personal whipping boy. You've got Dan Snyder essentially running a safe haven for bigots and sexual predators, while basically simultaneously operating a sex and drug trafficking organization, and the NFL covers for them and protects them. Snyder has been fuging up since day one and a lawsuit waiting to happen, but the NFL has never intervened, except to protect and defend him. You've got guys like Jerry Jones, Irsay, the McNairs, Ross, etc., who have been publicly problematic. Irsay had to go to rehab. Jones flubs are countless. The McNairs and Ross have been openly bigoted and have suffered no consequences. Kraft was out getting his butt fingered at massage parlors by sex workers... and none of them suffered any meaningful consequences. Yet, when the reports came out about JR, where was the NFL? Were they trying to shield him or protect him? No. They forced him to sell, and they handpicked one of their buddies to buy, who just so happened to have been waiting in the wings and rumored to be looking for a franchise to buy for months prior. Then when it comes to on-the-field, going back to the Superbowl in '15, they have constantly made an example of us. They used the biggest stage in the world to steal that game from us and publicly humiliate Cam in his MVP season. At what other point in your life have you ever seen a post-game presser held within earshot of another presser from an opposing player bragging about what they just did to your team? Let alone it being after a Superbowl. This poo is all a fuging soap opera... and we're too stupid to see we're the fuging heel. Just to be used, abused, and manipulated to the league's liking, in service of whoever else they need to help or prop up. Our other Superbowl appearance, we lost after the opposing team videotaped our practices all week after we were forced to practice outdoors the week leading up to it. Brentson Buckner famously told how we had just added new adjustments to our defense that week, and everytime we called them out, Brady immediately knew what they were and called it out to his offense. And what did the NFL do? Viewed the cold, hard evidence and instead of doing the right thing, they stomp the tapes out to destroy them and then bury them somewhere like Jimmy Hoffa, mafia style, so no one could ever tarnish the brand, "The Shield," or the pre-determined storylines. I'm not saying any of this in defense of JR. It's not intended to be that at all... I'm just saying, all of these guys that own teams are more often than not scumbags and sleazeballs, yet conveniently, JR's issues were enough to force him to sell the team to their preselected buddy in Tepper who had been openly looking for a ticket into the club. And not that JR would've had us on some clear-cut path to success either, because he didnt... but, ever since the forced-sell to Tepper, it has all been downhill. And when it comes to us, the NFL has no qualms about intervening for their own benefit, but never ours. And that's my issue. I don't like to go through life viewing myself as a victim. I don't. But in regards to the Panthers, its just hard not to see ourselves in that light considering everything that has taken place and the manner in which it took place throughout our franchise's history. We are the NFL's punching bag.

Honestly, I can't wait for them to get shitcanned so we can hear the truth from the players about how inept this staff is. I've picked up little things here and there alluding to it, but man, its clear as day how woefully unprepared they were to lead a group of professional, grown-man football players.

I'll always have the inherent love for sports, having played them and followed them my whole life, and then there's the personal attachment to our home state teams that I will always proudly maintain. It's a sense of pride and identity associated with our hometeams, so that will always be an unbreakable bond for me... but man, that being said, I have never felt more apathetic towards the Panthers. Don't get me wrong - I'm pissed. I'm disappointed. But, ultimately, I don't think I care anymore. Our situation has never felt so hopeless before. They burned all those draft picks as though this team was making a championship run, horribly mismanaged the QB position, and to see us not even competing against teams we should be curb-stomping... I dont care how many wins we have. When you know you have an incapable staff at the helm, none of it matters, and it won't matter until significant changes are made. And then there's the whole realization of knowing we're gonna have to go through all of this again because we messed it up so badly this time. It's just so old at this point. I'll always be a fan, but I'm definitely not investing the same amount of time or energy towards these games until they show and prove. And judging from Tepper's moves thus far, I'm not holding my breath.

Same. Defenses are literally playing like 15 to 20 yards and down, and that's it. The field is so compressed, both vertically and horizontally. As I posted in the game thread, Miami has the same deficiencies with their offensive line and they have put on an absolute clinic in how to run effective offense despite it. If you're not going to stretch the field or threaten them vertically, you have to stretch it horizontally/laterally, and Brady does neither... there's no space, no rhythm, no setups, nothing... the defense doesn't have to second guess anything, they can just recklessly and violently run downhill.

He's had a hate boner for me for quite awhile now.

Co-signed. It has never been this bad.

Depressing. #KeepPounding

Same, bro. Same. It just gets old and it sucks. And it sucks even more when we realize and get hit with that finality that we just wasted all of this time and investment in a complete waste of a coaching staff and will have to start the whole process over soon.

Yall are worried about the wrong stuff. This begins and ends with the coaching staff. And with the way the officials have called this game, I put no weight into a taunting penalty they called... they never even showed the taunt and the roughing the passer call was complete bullshit. Thats not on Reddick. This team showed up unprepared and are getting their ass whooped by the dolphins and the refs.

Yup. They had a year of film to study. It's why all of the defenses have been jumping routes all year and bragging that they knew what we were running before we ran it.

Yup. Every week. Every season.

Another hold on that outside run, more blatant and egregious than anything we've been called for today that goes uncalled.

Its like clockwork. I've been saying it since Suoerbowl 50, and more recently, since the first holding call today... when the fix is in, the refs influence the game through the field position first and foremost. From the first penalty, if we get a gain of any significance or momentum, they immediately call a penalty. By doing so, they also keep us pinned back against our own redzone/goal line, which allows the defense to be more aggressive - which has resulted in a blocked punt and one of the picks so far. This fix was in. Period.

And while that's true, you can still scheme around it and today is a prime example of how bad our coaching staff is... their defensive front is OK, and their offensive line is just as bad if not worse than ours. Yet, they are thoroughly whopping our ass. It's a coaching clinic at this point. They're overloading our OL and getting instant pressure. Meanwhile, against our defense, they're running RPOs and motions and such to stretch our defense laterally to where they can't push upfield to create pressure anymore and thus, scheming around their horrid offensive line. It also helps when the refs give them complete impunity to hold, too. But yeah, it would be nice if we had an NFL caliber coaching staff that noticed these things and decided to apply some of it to their own schemes.

Pie'd for everything except the balls part. No one has a billionaire by the balls.