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You know, I didn't like the pick because I was still wanting more competition (and speed) at WR, and I've been pretty indifferent to this point about him... But, the more I hear, see, and read about him, I see some eerie similarities to one Stephen Davis. He's not a burner, but is elusive, strong, patient, and is hard to bring down.

A few questions... I didn't see the presser afterwards, but did Rivera address this? If so, what did he have to say? Will we see more of this in the future? And, if we do, what does that mean for RT? I assumed coming into camp that it was Remmers job, but then we have been working him at C as well. I know that shouldn't mean much, but I think if you have a guy who is your RT, you're not giving him backup C reps in TC.

Not saying he will be anywhere close as a player, but his build reminds me of Smitty.

How would you compare his performance to Boykin's thus far, @Jeremy Igo?

Wegher too...

More Damiere Byrd and Jordan Todman

Posted elsewhere, but I really hope Byrd and Todman make it to the active roster.

I'm really hoping Todman and Byrd find their way on the final 53.

Is Cherilus and Collins still out there? I believe in Oher, and I think he'll find his rhythm in due time, but I just prefer to have security and options at the position and Chandler is neither of those. If we add a vet with starting experience and some natural talent for the position, I would just feel a lot better about it. That way if Oher can't get it together, we have valid insurance behind him and as has happened in the past, so often, the answer ends up being a guy that was already on the roster and waited his turn.

Yeah, I call it for Oher... He never lost him and stayed engaged the entire time. At the very least, on a real play with Cam back there, it gives Cam time to step up or get rid of the ball versus with Bell, he would've been picking himself up off the ground by the end of this play. What stood out to me for some reason though, is man, Oher looks pretty small in that video... Looks much trimmer than I would've expected.

If I had one wish, I would ask for a time machine... So I had unlimited chances at growing up to be Cam Newton.

Lol, yall think PJ is gone for the traffic citations? Lol... You're projecting Harrison or Roberts make it over him? I want us to sign Harrison, but if anyone goes out of the current roster, it's Roberts. The idea behind this thread seems convoluted too... Lamb, Batum, and PJ can all play the 2 and the 3 pretty interchangeably. So, they are needed for their versatility... Daniels has earned his spot as well, but he's primarily a 2 and doesn't really have the body for a 3. Furthermore, even if PJ stinks it up shooting wise, which he has through SL, he has shown the ability to play outstanding defense, even in his PT as a rookie. So, I don't see him being the odd man out. The one guy out of the backcourt that lacks size and versatility is Roberts. Plus, he was signed as the backup last year, unquestioned coming in, and lost his spot in the rotation after trading for Mo because he was that bad... Again, I think MKG, Batum, Lamb, and PJ are all part of the 2/3 rotation, and then PG is Kemba, Lin, and I think Harrison will be signed as the third with Roberts being the odd man out... I'm guessing he will be waived or traded (more likely waived because I don't see anyone trading for him).

Don't know if this would be better in this thread or the FA rumors one, but Woj just tweeted that we have been open to doing a sign and trade for Mo, being that we technically still own his FA rights with the cap hold. I could definitely see us using this to leverage something we'd like... And we wouldn't have to use our MLE in the process.

https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/616301475866742784 "He was kind of rusty today. First-day jitters maybe." @hornets associate head coach Patrick Ewing on rookie Frank Kaminsky.

And for those of you thinking he may still be brought back on a cheaper deal... NOPE. Look at Biz's tweets. He's not coming back, and that was made clear to him. I'm implore you to go look at those plus/minuses from last season... Combined with actually watching Al suck ass defensively night after night, looking at them and realizing he makes our team WORSE despite his offense (which I'm still not a fan of), it's what finally convinced me he has to go.

I despised the pick when it was made. I did not want Biz. But once we drafted him, I figured let him develop and see what we have. He is among the elite rim protectors in the league. People can say what they want about his struggles on offense, but even with those, his plus/minus as the starter while Al was out was ridiculously higher than Al's last season. This is why I want Al gone... If you think we're building this offensive juggernaut that will outscore every opponent, then you aren't very smart. It takes 20 fuging minutes for Al to make it up court every possession, and that's after he let's his man score like he isn't even guarding him (because he's not). BBut oh well, I'm used to it by now. And since Cho doesn't understand drafting or how to retain players worth retaining, we may as well package our draft picks for the next 20 years to OKC for KD. We don't need them... He'll either draft the wrong guy AGAIN, or just let him walk once his contract is up, so what does it matter. poo is a joke. Can't wait to see our hamster wheel philosophy on the court next season and get pissed off all over again when Al scores 33 on 25 shots while his man scores 35 on 15.

To his credit, Frank has always seemed like a cool guy off the court too. I just didn't want to give it to him because I remembered he had said something negative about our franchise, but in my mind, I remembered it being something more like, "fug those hillbillies. their fans suck. I want to impregnate their mothers in front of them."

Following our franchise model, I'd say go for it 100%, and then when we realize we fuged up, hit the reset button, blow in the cartridge, and do it all over again 100% next season. But, in all seriousness, ABSOLUTELY, YES! I would love it.

I really don't hold his comments about the "Bobcats" against him. I also REALLY didn't want to pick him. The pick makes no sense from a roster breakdown standpoint. After the trades, and considering no other moves were made before the draft yesterday after the Lamb deal, it actually would've made more sense to either go up for Mudiay (which we were rumored to have tried) or trade back a few spots and take Payne or Hunter. Size and quality backup play at PG was probably our biggest need. Instead, we took Frank. Now, if we could trust that Cho and Co. were capable of picking the BPA, then now sweat. But, he has never done that. And in my armchair-GM-opinion, there were plenty more prospects that offered tons more value at the 9 spot, regardless of needs, since that wasn't a factor in taking Frank either. So, if we take them at their word and believe that they believe a guy that wouldn't even come in for a private workout if the BPA, the biggest beef I have with the pick right now is his fit. We currently have Hawes, Al, Cody, Biz (if given the QO, which he should), and Frank. How the fug is that going to work??? A gluttony of bigs, and Clifford already has a hard time figuring out a rotation as it is. IMO, again, as I repeatedly exclaimed yesterday, Al is the odd man out, IMO. Is there a place for a back-to-the-basket big in today's NBA? Absoutely, if they have some semblance of athleticism, average passing ability, and PLAYS DEFENSE. Al has none of those, so he has to go. As of right now, I'm still not happy with the pick. If we moved Al, then I would like the pick, possibly even love it... Imagine a first unit with Hawes/Zeller and a 2nd with Biz/Frank. Nice spacing, nice balance of skill and offense and defense with either combo. Plug Al into either, and poo gets fuged up. But, this is our FO, so I fully expect us to not do this, instead, we'll probably let Biz walk and trade Cody before signing Al to a lifetime contract. The one thing I can take away from the pre-draft and draft acquisitions in a positive light is, from top to bottom, we are MUCH better now than we were a month ago.

And I thought I was going to hate Devin Booker as the pick... Lol. It just makes no sense whatsoever. All the bigs we already have, why??? None of the pieces make sense, unless we are moving a significant part of the rotation... And if that is the case I wish we would hurry the fug up and do it so this pick looks less stupid. I just don't understand.

We poo the bed again. I'm going to sleep. fug this draft and our front office.

Wow, can't believe Winslow slipped, but knew someone would. I think he's a great player but we're already loaded on wings. I take Winslow and leverage another team to trade for him... Hopefully we get to dump Al.

I really hope we can move up via Al and take a franchise changer.

As much as I dislike Kaminsky, I actually wouldn't be mad with whatever we did with the pick as long as it rid us of Al, although if we went that high, my preference would be Hezonja.