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If you want it to. But again, I'm speaking to his entire body of work. You're picking one game, I'm talking about all of them. It could be argued that he singlehandedly lost the Cleveland game with what was one of the worst PI penalties ever committed where he had absolutely no reason to give up on that play. Its one thing if you're doing it to save a TD where you just got smoked on a route. It's another to do it when you're near your cover, have help nearby, and can still make a play. Should've been the end of a drive, instead he essentially gave them 7. I get it... I've been playing and following football for 28 years. It's a lot like OLinemen, the less you notice them, the better they're doing... the issue is, Henderson's ONLY notable plays since hes been here are the bad ones. No flashes of brilliance and gamebreaking athleticism and cover skills that made him a Top 10 pick. I went down the list earlier in the thread... his only memorable moments have been bad. There have not been any impressive, amazing plays in coverage. And no, I don't expect him to make those on the regular as even the best only get a few picks a year, but that's not even my standard... I'm talking about PBUs, great coverage forcing errors by their QBs, etc. And whereas some have argued that he's fine because he's average, I disagree. I don't expect him to be all-world, but I expect him to not be a liability, and more often than not he has in his year here, and I honestly, just from the ye test, like what I see more from Taylor than what I've seen from Henderson. If you like him, cool. I'm just not impressed and think Taylor is better.

Yup, I didn't expect him to be Tom Brady, or hell, even a more accurate comp in a guy like Brees, but I expected him to be good. I expected him to be much better than what we have had the last 3 years (not including Cam in that, he will always be the goat). But he hasn't been good. He hasn't even been below average. He has been bad. And the more frustrating part, is it is INEXPLICABLY bad. There's no realy reason for it. Whether you know the offense, whether you're comfortable in the offense, or whatever, if a guy is open, you throw a football for a living, you should be able to hit him. But he hasn't. He has been wildly inaccurate. Honestly, you could get a good amount of random Huddlers into the game for one play, and they could hit the throws he's missing. They probably wouldn't be able to walk tomorrow and would likely mess their pants, but point being, some of these throws are simple pitch and catch, and he's missing badly. Now, to be fair, some of the struggles are due to McAdoodoo and his horribly dated and inept prehistoric offense, because there are a ton of plays where there isn't open receivers. But the issue is, the plays that ARE there, Baker is blowing. He's bailing on the pocket early, he's not getting rid of the ball when nothing is there, often times he's running to pressure, and again, has just been wildly inaccurate. I watched quite a bit of Baker in college and in Cleveland, and I believed in him. But I was wrong. At least so far... I expected the flashes we saw from Cleveland. 2020 Baker was REALLY good and went toe to toe with Mahomes in the playoffs and came within a play or two of winning. But none of that has been decipherable through 3 games... as Rex said, he has the lowest QBR in the league. I expected top 20 floor, a Top 10 ceiling. He has been bad. Really bad. And surprisingly bad, especially for many of us to have had only reasonable expectations.

I do think Allen is Cam-lite, and I really like him, so I'm sure it makes the job easier and naturally they rely more heavily on him, but I really like the rhythm and play selection through these first three games. And he has definitely spent enough time learning as an assistant that I believe there is some substance to it. Miami, and McDaniel for that matter, are apparently just damn good.

They had come back, were within a FG of winning, Allen was forced up in the pocket and threw a pass over the middle, WR couldn't get to the sideline but was within a yard of ideal FG range, was tackled and got up with 8 seconds left, time expired before they could clock it.

For as long as I have followed his football career - as a fan of The U as a kid where he was a national championship QB with ice in his veins, to his time here as the calming, even-keeled sounding board of a QB coach for Cam - one thing about Ken Dorsey, is that dude is just calm, cool, and collected... Until today: But still... come save us Kenny!

The other thing that really stands out, which prolly goes into the lack of identity you mentioned, is there isn't anything easy for us... like most teams have concepts that if they need 3 or 4 yards, they have a good idea it's gonna be there. We come out and pass on early downs like we're the fuging Greatest Show On Turf, but everything is locked up. We go for it on a 4th and 4 or whatever it was, and everything is locked up. No one is open. If you can't get the singles, you have to rely completely on homeruns, and a lot of games, there won't be any homeruns to win it for you. And again, Baker is so uncomfortable that even when guys have been open on routes, he is completely missing them even when he targets them. That's why the offense feels so dysfunctional... we don't have any singles. We've only had homeruns and they happen so infrequently it is obscured by how bad the offense is the other 99% of the time.

Agreed on all counts!

Yeah, he was real close to palming it through the block... but like I said in my reply to wow, that's why it is so encouraging, because he is around the ball seemingly every play now... he's being disruptive and finding the ball, wherever it may be.

For those who may not have noticed... when I shared that Rhule was 13th all-time in worst coaches by winning pct. last week, one of the guys in the Top 10? Dennis Allen. It's why I feel nothing about this win. Proud of our defensive guys that stepped up, Laviska, CMC... but they're just a bad team, playing a QB with a broken back, were down to their last two healthy receivers, with one of the top-ten all-time worst coaches at the helm.

Yeah he did. And that's what made it so much more encouraging... he is around the ball seemingly every play now. He's finding it.

He has been more noticeable than ever the last two weeks. And that was a fuging beautiful catch for such a big man. He's shown heart, hustle, and some push the last couple of weeks. Glad to see it.

Ok. Go check out his highlight reel of shutdown plays for his year plus here... let me know what you find.

And that's what makes his insistence on these same packages and personnel groupings so maddening... imagine what an actual creative offensive mind would do with a Shenault, Foreman, and CMC to shift in and out of the backfield and isolate LBs and Safeties in coverage. Then having a DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson on the outside with speed... And they were running a ton of man!?!?!? It makes zero fuging sense we couldn't take advantage of it. But here, let's run another bootleg that no one in the stadium bit on. I have no issue with the the carries so much as the type of carries versus the lack of touches in space for CMC. The dude is almost uncoverable 1 on 1 with whoever a defense would put on him... and yet, I can't remember a single time we've flexed him out this season snd got him a 1 on 1. The poo McAdoodoo is running is literally prehistoric. I dont recall seeing a single split back gun formation to keep them guessing, nothing... it's a joke.

Well, good to see we could assist him.

And that's what I said in the game thread... why couldn't Laviska had been playing the first two weeks. He made 90 yards off a flat route and a drag. That doesn't require an extensive amount of knowledge or familiarity in any offense to run. These coaches are just idiots and make things way harder than they have to be. Look what NO was doing... usually had a gut in the middle as a checkdown, but created space with their spacing/alignment and simple route concepts... when they racked up all that yardage, upon first glance, it appeared all they did was run a flat/out and corner concept all the easy down the field. A simple hi/lo... all Jameis had to do was read where the defense shaded. Meanwhile, they're being completely disrespectful sending nonstop blitzes and running man coverage like they have 4 prime Deions out there... these are simple things to beat. Slants, drags, rubs, bunch, snug, tight, doubles, stacks, etc., but nope. Let's keep the same personnel and run another bootleg or screen they read like a Dr. Seuss book before it was ever ran. Smh...

Using CMC like Earl Campbell. Nice. 4 targets in the passing game to go with 25 carries on mostly power runs. And for his next trick, he will make DJ Moore disappear into thin air! Glad Fhule finally decided Laviska had earned his spot.

Idk what game you were watching, but those receivers were not open. I counted maybe 3 or 4 throws where they were clearly open and Baker missed them. Baker is playing like poo, but again, this offense has looked the same under 4 different QBs and 3 different OCs. It's not the players. Don't get me wrong, if a better option than Baker became available, we should be all over it... but, they're still not going to look good either because the scheme is ass.

Winston threw for 353 yards today. And again, it's not reactionary, as I've been saying it... it's more like an update.

He is. I was about to share a bullet point thread on the notable lack of offensive output.

I dont dispute we have talent. But I maintain the offense is not conducive to good QB play. The only way those guys would make us look any better is if they were given full autonomy of the offense, much like what TB did with Brady when he came in... Look at the plays and play designs today. Again, that could've been Brady or Rodgers on those bootlegs and screens, and those plays would still net nothing because the receivers aren't open. It isn't the talent. It's the coaching.

Not reactionary when I've been saying it for going on a year.

We could trade for Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers tomorrow and they would look the worst they ever have in their career for the rest of the season. Baker is playing below expectations and not good at all, to be frank. He's missing the open throws and he looks scared. But, shitty QB play is just a symptom of a Rhule offense.

He should've been playing the first two weeks. Those few plays he makes an impact on with his explosiveness and physicality mightve been enough to win those first two games... and that's why Rhule is still an idiot coach but will take all the credit for this strategic checkmate today.

Lol sorry, Mrs. Rhule.

Matt Rhule doesn't know what to do with himself. I bet he almost feels like a real life coach right now.