PNW_PantherMan

The Canes look better tonight. Unfortunate for the outrage narrative around Rod losing the locker room.

Jarvis

Can't wait

I don't really like the idea of adding Marner to a team that's only had issues in the playoffs. But no issues with the general idea.

Because playoff hockey and regular season hockey aren’t the same thing. It’s a combination of the game intensity being dialed up with loose officiating.

Yea they lost the SC finals 2 years ago to Vegas which plays the same way. Big neanderthal forwards that beat people up and score dirty goals.

How is Jaycee a stud but Mike Jackson is below replacement level? Their overall PFF grades from last year are almost identical. Our depth isn't great beyond that, but the position isn't a chasm of talent like pass rusher was last year.

To me the biggest problem under Rod is not bringing in some sort of power play expert as an assistant. It's inexcusable at this point. I think coaches raise the floor of a team and players determine the ceiling. Rod's coaching can get us to the dance but it's up to Aho, Jarvis, Svech, etc to take over the game and elevate the team in the biggest moments. When Aho is getting a wedgie while we give up 2 on 1s, I don't know what you want the coach to do. The NHL playoffs are just dirty as hell. They don't call hardly anything and you can basically just bully the other team the entire time. The teams that win the cup always have some element of their team that does that. Our team does not have that element.

So you would keep the Leafs core intact if you were their GM and just fire the coach? Rod isn't blameless and I'm not saying he's a perfect coach. I just don't think coaching is the reason we are losing this series. And if your main gripe is getting past the ECF hump, it starts with the guys on the ice. Bottom line is teams know they can bully the Canes for free and it's been a problem for years. I don't think that's a coaching problem.

Disagree that CB is a massive need.

I think it's good to have both. They can work off each other.

Because some people are measuring it on overall value of draft picks vs the result of the players selected with those picks. On draft pick value, we got robbed. On the actual result, it's probably a wash to be honest. I don't think many people are going to remember this trade outside of Panthers and Bears fan circles. Unless one of the QBs ends up winning a Super Bowl or being a HOF inductee, nobody will remember.

Honestly that's not even a guy you want as a backup. The last thing you want is your safety valve to be made of glass. I'd take another player with less talent that can finish a season.

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I don't know if the order of operations fits, but I'm glad Mays has shown he can play in this league. We missed out on the top guys, but we may have made out alright regardless. Even if Mays is just a bridge, its encouraging to see his improvement since being drafted. As a rookie I wasn't sure that he was going to stick.

What does that have to do with anything I said?

Everybody wants one guy to blame. But the truth is our players got punched in the mouth, and they are playing completely intimidated. If you think playing musical chairs with head coach is the solution to that problem, I don't know what to tell you. They don't have confidence in themselves, because Florida is schooling them on the ice and beating the crap out of them while they do it. We have one of the most well run organizations in the NHL and you guys are ready to burn the building down because we ran into a buzz saw that goes on to win the SC. And to top it all off, SC wasn't supposed to even be in the cards for expectations this year. If we lost in Game 7 last series, nobody would be talking like this. But because we're getting swept in the ECF now it's time to fire Rod. Maybe the team does need a fresh voice, but tantrum throwing over exceeding this season's expectations is pretty ridiculous.

I agree that roster construction is a bigger issue than Rod. I don't know what coach behind the bench is winning this series. We weren't even supposed to compete this year, but people are mad because we're getting swept in the ECF again. If we lost in 7 last round people wouldn't feel that way.

The current roster just isn't built to deal with Florida or the Vegas team that won. We don't have anybody that other teams hate.

How is that not a penalty on Marchand? Jesus

Tkachuck deserved that one

He didn't see it coming so he got blasted pretty hard

Honestly I don't blame anyone for turning this off. It's hard to watch.

Oh no Koochie has entered the chat