OldhamA

Please back up your claim about me being a 'Miami apologist' with evidence. As for Herndon being a slightly better Thomas, gtfo. Thomas is absolute doggers.

I don't think Leatherwood will be able to handle the speed rushers in the NFL. Roche abused him in the Senior Bowl practices and he's, at best, a third round pick.

He's not an in-line TE. He's wasted if you don't flex him out into space.

It pains me when people talk bad about Herndon (who'd walk into our TE room and be the man tomorrow) and Berrios (who'd happily fit into our WR corps as a slot guy).

McAfee said on his show that the rumour is Peyton Manning vouched for him. I can't believe the Jets are that dysfunctional, right?

Trojans sticking together.

Generational gets thrown around here like World Class does in football. It loses meaning when there's multiple generational talents in every Draft (or about 50 World Class players walking around).

Not a massive fan of his technique:

But they literally did give up three first round picks. Now granted they got a first round pick back, but how else would you possibly word it?

The same Cam Newton that never put up back-to-back winning seasons? He was good, but he wasn't great. He had an excellent defence in 2015 (and a pretty decent offence).

The Browns roster literally shits on ours.

If you listen to Pat McAfee, Manning was the de facto GM too.

By 'okay' you mean 'turned two dumpster fire programs around in short order', right?

I think it's the opposite. Bridgewater was too conservative with the ball - he wasn't taking the shots that were there. That was clearly frustrating Brady and Rhule. It's also not what the system is about - you have to take those shot plays when they present themselves.

They've already picked up his 5th year option.

Strangely I actually prefer the Darnold trade to the Stafford one - I thought Stafford was very much a 'win now' option, but still leaves us struggling to address the OT position with an elite prospect. The Darnold trade could be good for the next decade plus and allows us to build the team around him. Obviously Stafford is the better QB, but we need to build a team.

Here's what I'll say, check out Burrow's stats pre and post Brady: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/joe-burrow-1.html Rhule and Fitterer have handed our OC (who was getting HC interviews after one year as an NFL OC!) a QB that ticks all the boxes you want physically and mentally. He's also 24 when the season starts. If this dude (and the QB Coach tbf, 'cos he has some footwork issues to overcome) is as good as they say he is then Darnold will be the future for us. If not then he shouldn't be getting those HC calls.

Plus Stafford has a special arm and Darnold doesn't (although he has a good one).

Just playing around - I haven't done enough research into the NFL Draft this year to do a full 7 rounder. I'd also draft a K and probably trade some of those additional picks for picks next year tbh.

You couldn't pay me enough to do that job - what a thankless task. "I'm going to guess what famously unpredictable people are going to do in the Draft".

Pitts might be the best player in the Draft. I still think he's a Flex-TE, but in terms of the mismatches he's going to bring he's potentially very special.

On the season? Not really - I'll discuss that after the Draft. On the new GM and how he's going to work with Rhule? Absolutely - this is a downright sensible trade that COULD turn out to be an absolute steal for us. If it doesn't work out it's only a shrug-your-shoulders failure. I was becoming very anxious that we were going to trade 3 first round picks and 2 key defensive starters for Watson. That's not how winning teams are built.

Who does?

I feel like some people are too invested in the 'Top 4' QBs from this years Draft and can't let them go.

Much like the Darnold trade - talented guys that this coaching staff think they can get more out of than previous coaching staffs. Elflein was actually pretty good at C for the Vikings. He's been poor at OG, albeit he can play in a zone scheme there. Erving has never been an OT for me - his value is because he's a swing OLman.