i don't know what it is but it isn't right. Delhomme, Kasay, Rucker, Minter, Gross, and Smith were all players in his inner circle. i know that my reputation on this board couldn't be much worse, but if there is one thing that I know for a fact it is that he tried like hell to connect with Julius Peppers but Julius wanted nothing to do with that. And now you have Luke, TD, Kalil, Olsen, and CJ in that circle. DeAngelo wasn't in that.