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Many Panthers fans are already excited about second-round selection Nic Scourton for a variety of reasons including but not limited to: the Panthers needed to recharge the position group, Scourton had a late first-round grade according to many (including the Panthers), and he fit this season's modus operandi of stopping the run now and forever. However, Scourton was seen early on as one of the top-3 EDGE guys in this class but fell due to not having quite the season at Texas A&M as he did prior at Purdue (his sophomore season). It's been revealed since then a few different things that speak to that dip in production... Texas A&M, for one, requires each player on their line to be able to hold two gaps. This also explains why we saw low production across the board from the other two TA&M prospects but were still being heavily touted. Scourton was also said to have bulked up to 280lbs in order to fulfill this role and noticeably suffered from it. He's expected to play this season with Carolina at 255 - 260 which is very different from most situations. In most situations, teams are wanting players to gain 15 - 30. Since Scourton is going to be playing at his Purdue weight, I thought it would make sense to dive more into that tape. Y'all... we might have gotten something special... Let's take a quick peek at the stats before we start drooling over some highlights. First, a summary of the last two seasons for Scourton: Second, the game splits: The first thing that pops up for me is how Scourton's sack numbers were cut in half his senior year. We've already pointed out issues with scheme that impacted the TA&M linemen from racking up numbers, but seeing the game splits it's clear that Scourton didn't exactly feast on inferior competition while at Purdue. He had two two-sack games (vs. Michigan (2023 - 2024 champs), Indiana) and a 10-tackle game (vs. Nebraska). I also see the 2024 games where he went up against two top-10 tackles (Will Campbell from LSU + Armand Membou from Missouri) that I watched leading up to the draft. For those who just want a summary: Scourton looked elite at Purdue and is going to be rotating in often during his rookie campaign. I originally had him penciled in as the second-string, strong-side edge defender behind Clowney but I wouldn't be surprised to see the team have him and Pat Jones II moving around when they rotate in in order to find where Nic looks best. Here's a highlight reel to replace that Cialias you lost in your recliner tonight: For those that want a little more: Below I'll be linking the linking the five games I've mentioned above. If you plan to watch all of them, I highly recommend going in the order listed as that will allow you to see him vs. Campbell and then Membou while dealing with the aforementioned things he dealt with at Texas A&M before seeing him look unstoppable in 2023 when he was allowed to play both at a comfortable weight and in a scheme that didn't require him two cover two gaps nearly every play. vs. Will Campbell (2024) vs. Armand Membou (2024) vs. Nebraska (2023) vs. Michigan (2023) vs. Indiana (2023)
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Jags Not Picking Up Devin Lloyd's 5th Year Option (Trade Target?)
Icege replied to Jay Roosevelt's topic in Carolina Panthers
Speaking of not picking up the bonus option... GO GET HIM DAN/BRANDT I WILL MAKE TUKA LOOK MELLOW WITH HOW MUCH I WILL FANBOY THE F OUT -
I’m ready to fall in love with the Carolina Panthers again
Icege replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
"Keep Pounding" used to mean something T_T -
Jags Not Picking Up Devin Lloyd's 5th Year Option (Trade Target?)
Icege replied to Jay Roosevelt's topic in Carolina Panthers
The Jags have just under $50M in cap space for next season and Lloyd's bonus option would have accounted for $14.75M. Oluokun already is owed $16.5M then as well with Ventrel Miller and Yasir Abdullah providing depth. Likely don't want to have over $30M tied up in two LBs. I can see them extending him with a low hit in 2026 that jumps much higher in 2027. -
After all of the Barry Horowitzing you've been doing since the pick, you're on the hook for a 1k yard rookie season there bucko.
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D. Morgan on T-Mac: “I made the decision pretty early [January]
Icege replied to Tbe's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't see the Evans nor the Sutton comps tbh Not sure I see AJ either... I was watching him when he was at Summerville High School Call me crazy, but I see Kenny Golloday with better hands and smoother athleticism. Runs angry like Golloday did with a long stride. -
Bringing back Shaq + adding a FS would be the perfect bow on top of this offseason
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The team gave up nearly 180ypg on the ground with DB gone in 2024. In 2023, they were 16th against the run (104.1ypg). That was during DB's 103 tackle campaign. If we take that into consideration along with how this affects offensive play callers, then just the return of DB alone is a significant upgrade for the offense. The team was turning to Amare Barno to be a 3-4 DE at times... that's a massive downgrade from DB. Then when we think about how the players that ended the season as starters are going to be competing just to be back-ups this season...
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Attention Seeking, Nostalgic Pining, & Daily Grievances (In Here)
Icege replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
I had to use one of the bathrooms at work this morning and the person who had just used it was clearly older because it reeked (and had that horrible spiritual/atmospheric pressure) of a prescription dump. This thread felt like the appropriate place to weep after that Hell. -
Yes. The last thing I need is one of the animals (child included) running across the keyboard or accidentally deleting an important email. I'd rather deal with the couple of extra seconds of having to put my password back in then compromise the data I'm trusted with. That's not extreme at all. It's literally the bare minimum that somebody could do next to nothing. Instead of chalking up blame to not knowing the future, we can prevent that future with just a little personal responsibility.
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Y'all ready for the start of our first ever back-to-back winning seasons? ᕦ(ò_óˇ)
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It is very, very easy for an org to set up an MDM that forces devices to lock after 5min of inactivity. Bad opsec to not have that (nor an internal policy that requires devices be locked if not in use) especially given that there's likely access to other information like plays, limited medical info, etc
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Direct link: https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/nfl-schedule/2025-important-nfl-dates/ Panthers' specific dates: OTA Offseason Workouts: May 27-28, May 30, June 2-3, June 5 Mandatory Minicamp: June 10-12
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Attention Seeking, Nostalgic Pining, & Daily Grievances (In Here)
Icege replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Some will say it was due to toxicity, some will say it was because they were whiners. The world will never know. (it knows ) -
Semi-related/unrelated?: What are you looking to see from Allar next year? I remember you being high on him this year... were there any elements to his game that you see as a glaring weakness currently? I expect him to be a day one, at worst day two selection but if he somehow is there on day three...
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There's always exceptions. The overall idea is more than reasonable as I mentioned... It's just hard to believe it as being sincere from some of the same people that have demanded another QB be taken ever since Bryce was announced as a Panther. If they exercise his fifth-year bonus option while actively working on a contract extension, then going out and throwing a day three flier at a prospect to hold the clipboard makes a ton of sense. It doesn't make much sense to do that now though (imo). There aren't many teams that are built to be fine if QB1 goes down and if they are it's likely because QB2 had just as strong of a chance of winning the starting position.
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Only got the intro read so far and cannot wait to read the rest instead of event logs this morning.
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It's difficult to take the "we need to make sure we have a back-up QB developed just in case" claim seriously when the only posters I've seen bang that drum are the ones that want(ed) Bryce gone. While it is a reasonable position to take, we've also seen that it's not exactly coming from a place of sensibility as much as it is hate for BY9.
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If we get the same Bryce that started the first two games of last season, they have to consider making a significant investment at the position again. If we get the Bryce that played the last seven games of the season, then take the fifth-year bonus option leading into his fourth season so that there's plenty of time to negotiate a second deal.
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Round 2 - Panthers Select Nic Scourton at pick 51
Icege replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
He really likes to slide the edge that draws the double teams in those situations to create more confusion for opposing OLs as well which makes life even easier for the blitzing LBs & safeties. Also, with the addition of Ransom as @Basbear pointed out, that gives the team a third safety that can potentially contribute right away on both special teams and the defense. I wouldn't be surprised to see Evero march him out there in three safety personnel groupings. I keep reminding myself that the team is one more offseason away but it's really hard to not be excited about seeing how they develop this season. As much as I want W's, I'm more interested in seeing last year's draft class take the leap that Bryce did in their second year. -
That second round pick from last year. Sheesh
Icege replied to Panthero's topic in Carolina Panthers