LinvilleGorge

Win some games. Then you can talk. But this just rings hollow when we've done nothing but lose since Tepper bought the team.

Yeah, they've really fuged this up. I still think something happened post-draft that made them regret taking him and now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. You either give the guy the contract his draft status dictates or you trade him for whatever you can get. Those are really the only two choices you have.

Because they think he's gonna bust and they want to be able to wiggle out of the deal. Everyone knew he was boom or bust. I think something happened since the draft that makes them think he's a bust.

Yeah, when you draft a guy you have to understand and realize you're going to be giving him a contract commensurate with that draft position. It is what it is. If you don't want to do that for anyone on the board, trade down. Hell, pull a Vikings and sit on your ass and let the time run out and the next team up pick. LOL! But don't draft the guy and then think you're going to get away with some contract shenanigans. Hell, his agent can't allow it looking out for his own interests. If Stewart was willing to sign a deal wildly out of step with the norm on a bad way his agent would probably tell him he's got a walk. If I want to sign future 1st round draft prospects I can't be a part of this.

Here something else to consider. We're already heavily reliant on rookies at EDGE rusher with two 2nd round rookies on the roster. If you add a third that's going to be three rookies on that unit and you're going to have to bounce a vet. That scenario had Wonnum included in the trade along with a 2nd and a 4th. Three rookies on one unit just seems like a bad idea. Rookies need a lot of coaching and development and you're going to be stretching that thing while also requiring them to play a lot of snaps.

Something happened. Anyone drafting him knew they were drafting a boom or bust guy who had to a lot of potential but hadn't done much of anything on an actual football field. Something happened between the draft and now to make them have buyer's remorse on that pick.

They've spent all their cap on a QB and two WRs. Re-signing Tee Higgins to a mega deal was a serious mistake IMO. They don't have a defense or an OL. They were in a situation where they had to let him walk IMO.

Even in Scourton's down season he still managed more sacks than Stewart got in his entire collegiate career.

No. I honestly didn't think he was worth more than about a 3rd round pick to begin with and I'm not even sure I would've taken him that high. His lack of production is beyond alarming. The guy has bust written all over him. I wonder if the Bengals just finally actually watched some tape on him or something? Like oh damn, we fuged up! LOL

Sorry about the kitty, man. That really sucks.

Yeah, I think counting on a rookie 4th rounder to start would be a big mistake. Bring in a vet stopgap and if the rookie is ahead of schedule, great. But don't force it.

Good grief LOL

Dude... you're just all over the place. You're the one who said T-Mac is better right now than Chark was at his best.

We clearly need to add a veteran stopgap at safety one way or the other.

According to some random guy on Twitter claiming it's from some bloody at ESPN but offering no proof of that?

I mean, you said yourself that he was an average NFL WR. How do you define "solid"? You're super excited about T-Mac. I get it. I wasn't opposed to drafting him myself. Hell, I was happy for you when we drafted him. But damn man...

Everything always makes sense in hindsight. Hell, I've seen guys who were touted by everyone as slam dunk "safest player in the draft" type prospects bust massively. Remember Aaron Curry? Robert Gallery? I'm just never going to say that a prospect is definitely a better NFL player than a solid NFL player. Better as a prospect? Sure, you can always make those arguments. But ultimately it comes down to what you do on Sundays and what you did on Saturdays just isn't relevant when you're talking about who's the better NFL player.

I've just seen enough highly touted prospects who pretty much everyone was high on end up busting to assume anything.

And you would've probably said the same thing about a lot of highly drafted WRs who busted.

Just stop, man. All the college stats don't matter. Plenty of guys who put up big numbers in college flop in the NFL and you and I both know that there are 1st round and top 10 busts every year. While we definitely hope T-Mac isn't one and we hope he proves to be a great NFL WR, you can't assume poo about a rookie who hasn't played a down of NFL football yet.

That's certainly what we hope but c'mon... stating it as fact when he's never played a down of NFL football?

Yeah, I'm not trying to rain on any parades but I'm not gonna let my hopes get too high either.

We need a lot of of new pieces and rookies to work out. Yeah, there's potential there by it seems like some Panthers fans are acting like we've arrived and we definitely have to prove that on the field. Most of the teams on our schedule are probably looking at the game against us as a game they should win. That's just gonna be the reality until we prove otherwise.

We have a lot of issues. We're just hoping that we may have some of them fixed. We still got a see it play out on the field first.

We definitely don't. I'm just saying that we didn't when we were concentrating tons of resources into RBs either.