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That wouldn't be surprising. Sure will sting watching us give up significant draft value for the pick that should've been ours anyway.

I think that's twisting Rhule's words a bit. I think what he was saying there is that he wants to see urgency from his QB, not that he's feeling that an upgrade at QB itself was very urgent... though the latter being the case would not be at all surprising.

The Texans are going full NBA style trying to appease their superstar. It'll be hilarious if he still forces his way out.

As the off-season progresses, some of these QB needy teams are gonna strike out. There's a lot of off-season to go.

LOLOLOL Stafford is not getting cut.

Yep, I'd do two 2nds for Stafford but I don't think Detroit would go for it. They want a 1st. If they're patient they'll get it. If Watson is moved, only one team will get him. Even if they have to wait until after the draft, there will be QB needy teams left out in the cold still needing a QB. They have a good commodity and a lot of the QB needy teams right now are thinking that surely they won't end up being one of those teams that doesn't have the dice roll their way this off-season in the QB carousel but when the dust settles there will be some teams sulking around kicking rocks.

Teams waiting on the Deshaun Watson shoe to drop? I mean, you'd be kicking yourself if you traded a 1st and more for Stafford and then Houston came out and said bring me your offers for Watson

Sigh...

Kirk is damn average. He's Teddy with balls.

LOL! Smith only came about 250 yards shy of Jones' passing totals in 2019 (1256 vs. 1503) and they both had 14 TDs. Smith was already putting up very good stats before Jones became the entrenched starter this year.

Really gotta pay attention to the traits with the QBs coming from powerhouses. Lawrence has elite traits. He has a good arm, good mobility and athleticism, prototype size. It's obvious why he's an elite prospect. Fields has elite traits. He has the arm. He has the athleticism. He has good size. If he was more consistent he'd be locked in as the #2 QB. Jones just doesn't fit. He put up great stats. But when you single him out and specifically watch him instead if watching the game and the result, you're left pretty unimpressed. Pretty much everyone is in agreement that Trask isn't a very good NFL prospect but I'd bet money he would've out up very similar videogame stats.

Big arm? LOL

No. I was paying no attention to QBs in that draft class.

Poor man's Kirk Cousins IMO.

Not at #8. No fuging way.

We'll be active on the FA market too, but I don't necessarily expect a splash signing. I hope we give Moton a look at LT... or get a left handed QB.

If we add a legit QB, Teddy won't need to be replaced. We'd just stick with Walker or a similar cheap option. Weatherly was terrible. His snap count was going down every week until he ended up on IR. He's already been replaced. I think we're going to spend at least two picks on OL and 3 wouldn't shock me

What's done is done. He should've never been signed but he was. Now we gotta deal with it.

Honestly, my favorite QB evaluation situations are non-powerhouse P5 schools. You get to see guys go up against top competition without having the overwhelming talent advantage that guys at places like Clemson, Alabama, OSU, OU, etc. enjoy.

Beyond Surratt though, what did he have to work with? They also had the 95th ranked defense. He had to feel the pressure to put up basketball scores to have any shot.

Teddy will only hit us for $15M as a post-June 1st cut. Stafford would hit us for $20M. We save $8M releasing Teddy. We'll save another $14.5M making Short a post-June 1st cut. We'll save $6M releasing Weatherly. We can free up another $5M if need be by releasing Paradis. $4M releasing Burris. $2M is we're done with Ian Thomas. There's plenty of fat to trim.

If we don't trade for a legit QB and the right QB isn't there at #8, then let's draft a LT and take Newman in the 2nd. I'm so numb to watching the Panthers throw away 2nd rounders at this point that it wouldn't even hurt if he's a bust then we can go get Sam Howell next year.

Great player and seems like a great guy. But, damn... that injury history. Very difficult to see him holding up at the NFL level.

It's not about cap space, it's about trade bait. We are holding #8 overall. Indy has #21. There's a huge gap in that value. Detroit honestly might take #8 overall over #21 and next year's 1st from Indy. In terms of value in the draft chart they'd be roughly equal.

Yeah, you don't acquire a 33 year old QB on a two year contract to look toward the future. It's why I'm not hugely excited about it. Stafford would be a huge upgrade, but parting with #8 and more would sting.