JawnyBlaze

His arm strength isn’t good, but it’s good enough. Probably better than some we’ve had here recently *cough* Teddy two yards *cough* The areas he needs to improve on the most, by far, are accuracy and decision making/processing. And those aren’t limited by his dna limiting his size and strength. He can improve those. He just has to work on it. Once he isn’t one of the worst I’ve ever seen at those areas, then he can take advantage of a hopefully improved OL and pass catching group. But until then a group of Moss, Rice and Gonzalez wouldn’t be of much use here.

Off topic a little, but somewhat relevant. I read earlier that Bengals’ RT Jonah Williams is a free agent this year. Played LT well his first few years then they got a new LT and he shifted to RT and maintained his high level of play. Probably wouldn’t be cheap but if we could get him to play LT, slide Icky in to G that could potentially address a lot of our OL deficiencies in one signing. Would make the offense that Canales wants to run easier to execute (to swing it back on topic heh).

I think scheming has more than a little to do with it. At this point I dunno about TMJ, but his whole career has been in terrible schemes. I wouldn’t blame them if they just cut bait with him though.

I typo’d the title, meant to just say “Burns trade to Baltimore”, not as if it’s happened but rumor of it in the works. Is that bit you pasted from the Bleacher Report article it references? I read the fanrecap article and didn’t see the “we’d love to see” paragraph. edit: nvm, you pasted from the article Steelo linked, not me.

I mean, everything I said pointed out the wording in the article sounded like baseless speculation, so it seems I’m not the one with the reading comprehension issues.

Fanrecap article I dunno how reputable this site is, they reference Bleacher Report but don’t give a link and the wording makes it sound like BR is just spitballing possibilities rather than actually hearing a rumor. The title of the fanrecap article implies there’s actual rumor of it happening. I’m guessing it’s unfounded speculation.

Yea I realized after hitting submit that I forgot a word. Decided eff it, I was still more accurate than Bryce.

He needs to be practicing that S2 some more. And painting a bullseye on the side of a barn so maybe he could hit one. Processing speed and accuracy were by far his worst areas last year, with pocket awareness after them.

Eh, at the time I was in the camp that they made the right decision not trading him. In retrospect, I was wrong. I thought we’d take Stroud and at least be competitive and be ready for playoff aspirations in year two. In reality, those draft pics would have been waaaay more valuable than those 40 qb pressures. Take Burns away and those pressures don’t dissipate, someone else would get some if not most of them. A lot can be done with scheme. Even now, if we can get a first, take it and run. Even the Chiefs’. We can spread that $20-30mil around and use it to improve the team in more areas.

That’s the key difference that makes him better than Richardson. Sure, Tepper hasn’t picked a good hire yet (Richardson hit on one in 20something years: Fox), but at least he isn’t going to fire Morgan and rehire Fitterer. He learns from his mistakes and doesn’t remake them. Unfortunately there’s a lotta mistakes out there for him to make, but hey at least the pool is smaller every time heh edit: also he’s not afraid to admit he was wrong. After waiting too long to fire Rivera and Hurney, he waited less with Rhule (but still too long), he didn’t hesitate when he saw the problems with Reich and his staff.

Icky was good last year. This was his only bad year. Definitely deserves another look under the new staff to see if he can stick at LT before talking about moving in to G.

It’s only been three years. We still have two more to see if he can stay healthy before we would need to pay him a second contract.

Also, lol at the Wilks fanboying. He’s not a good coach. I like the guy, but he was a terrible HC and not a very good DC either. Our defense got worse when he became DC, and I dunno enough about SF to say the same for them but they’re so loaded on defense it would be hard to come in and F it up.

Allen and Lamar are both great QBs and honestly are probably both slightly underrated. The only difference between them imo is you have to have a specific offense for Lamar to work, but when it works it’s incredible. In the playoffs I think it’s harder for these type of offense to be consistent. I’m not sure the problem is Lamar in the playoffs, it’s just that they have to go up against better defenses one after the other and in a league of any given Sunday, it’s more likely someone will have an off day upsetting the balance that offense requires (or an “on day” for the defenses).

Absolutely not. Has his availability been disappointing? Sure. But when he plays he’s been great, one of the best in the league. He could never have another injury and be one of the greatest of all time and we would have let that go for a 5th or some nonsense. Thomas Davis was always injured for three years. CMC was traded for low value because of injuries and now the 49ers are in the Super Bowl with CMC in the MVP discussion. You don’t sell low. If we could get a first for Horn, sure. But we can’t.

Sounds like he’d be replacing Suleimon (sp?)

It’s not uncommon at all. You have some owners to whom the team is an investment and they’re totally hands off. Then you have owners who love the game and like to know what’s going on. Tepper is the second. Someone just posted a day or two ago here a screenshot saying they have the same situation in Atlanta with the new hc and GM reporting to Arthur blank

It’s not necessary to fix the QB situation this year, we’re too resource strapped for that. It’s not going to be a great year, that much is known.

This is the make or break year for Young. I don’t want to spend valuable limited draft resources on a guy that isn’t thought highly enough to be taken at the top of the first. Like I said before, if Morgan and Canales have some sort of insider info that guarantees a guy that will be available to us will be a legit franchise guy then sure. Otherwise, build the team and be ready to spend a high first (moving up if necessary) on a franchise QB next year.

No, I haven’t seen what Tepper is actually like in his relationships with his employees, just like everyone else on this board. So I don’t know his track record. I don’t buy into speculative narratives that get popular through repetition. I know his track record for hiring the right people isn’t good, but I’m still going to be cautiously optimistic about these hires. I know he has one case of losing his cool in a dispute with someone near him in Jacksonville, that wasn’t a great look throwing a drink on someone. Pretty much everything else people whine about is conjecture.

Cautiously optimistic. Closer to love it than indifferent though.

Who are they supposed to report to, Roger Goodell? Jfc wait til the season starts at least before judging the new guys

It’s really more mental problems than physical ones. He has a weakish arm but plenty of QBs have thrived with similar arms. And of course QBs with similar difficulties seeing over the line have thrived (and in one case been a top ten-ish all time QB). With Young it’s about decision making and processing speed (but but but the S2!!! Is garbage.) After those two deficiencies his next biggest problem is accuracy. I’ve never seen a more inaccurate passer, whether under pressure or throwing from a clean pocket to a wide open receiver. After that would be arm strength.

Like many other narratives, that was just a speculation that kept getting repeated until simple minds just accepted it as true. For all we know Tepper wanted Stroud, Reich wanted Young and Tepper let him take who he wanted. When the decision proved to be comically bad, that’s why Tepper fired him in the middle of his first season, because it was such an easily avoided mistake. That’s also basic speculation but makes more sense with all factors included. No one knows or will know who was team Stroud and who the dummies were except the three people involved in the decision and there’s no way any of them will give a straight truthful answer about it either.

My Bucs fan buddy said the same thing. Texted me an hour ago he was dreading this news of us hiring him.