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17 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

They want to go to the playoffs next season. So it can’t be Darnold. 
Also, no. I don’t think a new coaching staff can “fix” Darnold. 
He is unfixable. 

Never said anything about "fixing" Sam. I asked you who do you think they will go with? That you didn't answer.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Jacoby seems like the most logical choice.  He offers something to a draft pick and Corral.   He knows the O. Also, he has been on and around successful teams and QBs.   

He would be my top pick for a vet warm body. 

Plus, he wasn't part of the horrific Rhule era.  Which this team needs to be cleansed from.  Sam Darnold is basically the posterboy of it. 

I'm not saying you are wrong.  It could end up that way for sure.  I guess we will have to wait until after the draft to find out.

9 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Chemistry doesn’t mean anything. He will still turnover the ball like crazy. 

So? That is already known. Who do you think they will go with?

6 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

oh. weird. that doesn't seem to make any sense. 

That's why I say it must be for the fact he left the scene.  Had he stayed it would have most likely resulted in a fine for just street racing. It's a stretch to say that his involvement resulted in the death of someone else unless they can prove he caused the wreck. The simple fact they were racing is trying to connect one to the other. A good layer will get this reduced.  I'm not minimizing the other person's death in all this. But street racing is extremely dangerous and there's a reason it's illegal. But the sad fact is theres folks who die form excessive speed and racing everyday.  Now will they try to make an example out of him? They might. 

3 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

I suppose stranger things have happened. The Panthers whole QB situation is presently one big puzzle.

You have to prepare yourself for any possibility.  Just reading the tea leaves it looks to be trending in that direction at the moment. 

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

not me. 

he doesn't fit the criteria for a backup.

for me a backup should either be:

A - A young developmental talent.  That's not Sam Darnold

B - A veteran that knows the scheme and is largely a teacher.  One that has seen it all in the NFL.   And yes, he can be called to start until your young guys are ready.  That's also not Sam Darnold though.  He hasn't seen it all.  He doesn't know the O.  And Sam largely was just a guy with physical tools.  Between the ears is what he lacks and is key for a QB in that role. 

if I am going to watch disappointing QB play.  At least let it be from someone that is doing something legit for the young talent. 

 

I think the coaches are going to be the teachers for the young guy. There's not a sub .500 vet out there that I would use as a mentor for a rookie.  Those days are over unless you already have a vet starter in your system. The only guy that has any experience with these receivers and this team is Sam.  I know you hate the guy but he's a logical choice for a temporary starter/backup for this season.  Unless you would rather sign Carr,  this is most likely the route they end up going for now.

3 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

Yes, I think that Darnold is gone from the Carolinas,  never to return.

it was sort  of sad because he was a good teammate and never complained, no matter what happened.

Nice guy that  just didn't quite have what it took to continue as the Panthers starting QB..

I'm not sure it means he's gone just yet. The available options for vet starter are not that great but Sam does have the advantage of chemistry with the players so that does give him a slight edge. 

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

clark county police just put out a warrant for his arrest. it's not just a misdemeanor 

That's what it states in that tweet.

Just now, thefuzz said:

Not so sure.

Some states have laws where if you are present during a death, while committing a crime, or said death was a result of said crime, you an be prosecuted for much larger offenses.

Not saying that will happen, but I've seen it before.

They will have to increase the charges to a felony if they want to charge him with contributing to the death of the person.  Street racing is illegal but it takes 2 to race. Both know it is illegal and extremely dangerous.  Unless he caused the other car to crash I doubt they will pursue the maximum penalty. He should have stayed at the scene and took it like a man.

7 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Current roster has 4 true LB’s and 2 Shaq Thompson and Damien Wilson will be cut 

I just saw a ILB mocked to us at 9. These mock draft nerds just go with the interview schedule as their predictions. 

2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I believe the arrest warrant is brand new.  Incident was late Jan but it appears to be filed after the investigation was completed.  Yikes.  

That's what I said to Scot. The warrant is the only thing that just popped up. The incident that led to it is already known. 

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

again, it's about pointing out the consistency.  That has been there since his USC days.  You can cherry pick plays and excuse them all you want.  When Sam Darnold is on the football field......the ball is always in danger. 

and that's a liability.  We just lucked out that the ball often bounced our way when it happened so often.  But that's just the luck of the bounce. 

all QBs deal with horrible snaps.  Lineman getting beat etc.  You can find those plays with everyone and more of them than Sam encountered because they all played a lot more snaps. 

he also wasn't average or better in all the games but the Saints games.  He supplied below average offenses production vs the rest of the league in that window. 

Which is what you would expect from a backup level qb. That's all Sam is. Expecting anything more from him is setting yourself up for disappointment.  I would take him as a backup until they get a chance to upgrade.

22 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Will be interesting to see if there's any change in Fitts overall philosophy after a few weeks with Reich in the building.

Reich will speak first at 1:30 p.m. ET, followed by Fitterer at approximately 2 p.m. ET.

I'm sure there had been. Fitterer now has to adjust his talent search to players that Reich needs for his team. Frank has specific requirements for the type of players he wants on this team. Fitterer and Morgan are tasked to find the best players that fit that description.  Who the hell knows what the last guy wanted.

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Look like Jalen Carter is going to be doing some jail time. 

He's been pulled out of the combine. 

Might make a team like the Lions think about going QB, or trade out of the spot. 

I've never heard of getting jail time for a misdemeanor charge.

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

So it's a minor offense that will result in a fine if it's his first. It sounds worse than it actually is.  Carry on.

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Granted, but they can only find out what's known. I get the impression nobody knew about this until today, not just the NFL.

The arrest warrant was just issued.

The arrest warrant sure. That only happened today.  The things he's being accused of was certainly known. 

Just now, ECHornet said:

I missed that interview. I know most of their messaging has portrayed shipping the #1 pick and riding with Fields. I know most of their fans seem to want Fields to stay. I don't think Bears fans (or front office staff) are the best QB evaluators.

That all may be true but that's the impression he gave off. He was noncommittal about Fields as the starter going forward. 

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get the impression nobody knew it till now but honestly can't say.

Either way, that's a big deal.

Smart teams do their homework on the guys. There's nothing they do already know about them. 

Just now, ECHornet said:

Same. I would trade Fields for a haul and draft Young if I were the Bears GM. We seem to be the minority though.

The way the GM sounded in his interview I came away convinced that they may indeed take a qb at #1. If I'm not mistaken the current staff did not draft Fields so there's that.

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

I just don't view them as wildly different QBs in 2023. It seems with QBs, there are many people who rely on the eye test. That's the kind of perspective that sells you on a Justin Fields, convincing you he's your franchise QB, when he just led you to the #1 overall draft pick.

My eye test tells me a different story about Fields. 

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly not opposed to the sign Darnold as a bridge/backup and draft Anthony Richardson plan. Hell, I think I typed out a relatively lengthy post a couple weeks ago advocating that plan.

I think we will get an impression about what teams are thinking about AR today. So far I'm not seeing the love for AR that is being shown on here.  Speculation I've noticed so far is that the Ravens may take him at 19 but he's not being projected to go in the top 10 yet.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

If you had a chance to listen to Rodrigue talking to Julian Council about Ejiro Evero's defense, you'd have thought you were listening to a coach breaking down film.

She knows her stuff.

I did catch it. She's very observant and knowledgeable about what she sees on the field and on the sidelines.  Not a lot of folks pay that much attention to what's really going on.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The article makes it sound like she's got a bright future.

It's funny. In past years even women sportswriters were unusual, but ladies like Mary Kay Cabot and our old friend Jourdan Rodrigue have shown they can do just as good a job as anyone.

I've certainly talked to women who knew their football as well or better than some men. So coaching and scouting? Sure, why not?

Absolutely.  Not many men know much about football as evident by some of the conversations we see on here.  

1 minute ago, ladypanther said:

And I did it in a fun way....right?

Yes you did. You were very kind to a forgetful old man. Thank you.

17 minutes ago, Leaky_Faucet said:

Panthers really have two ideal options. A) is Derek Carr which as I said before is mainly from the front office but Brown and Reich are both interested in this possibility. B) Pairing a young QB with a Darnold-like player such as Sam or Andy Dalton, and this is more coaching staff driven. 
 

They really like Will Levis and he would be their option if the draft were today but keep in mind it is combine week, so this could change. They also like Stroud but there is not a lot of support from the front office to go up that high. 

This has been my suspension as well.  There has been only two options that are a realistic possibility. Go with a vet because getting up to the 1st pick is a pipe dream or try to get Levis if he falls far enough or another rookie and pairing him with some like Darnold.  But I would be surprised if it is Darnold they sign to be the mentor. Although he wouldn't be a bad choice.