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3 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

Yeah hopefully the fans show up in good faith for this game. Even if the Bengals spank that ass it’s nice to feel hope again. We can at least look forward to having a QB that can toss a few to the rookies in garbage time. 

Scoring more than 13 points seems like a victory in itself. 

Just now, MHS831 said:

Good.  It was good for Zavala to get some quality reps. 

Zavala actually played pretty well after he settled in.

Ja'Tavion blocked Moton on one play. He literally turned toward Moton and ran right into him taking Moton out of the blocking. Dude needs some work in the blocking assignments. 

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Here is what bothers me--had we done this in the right order--build the OL and bring in offensive weapons--Darnold might still be here.  Mayfield might still be here.  Heck, Bridgewater....

Point is, the QB is the last piece of the offensive you add. 

All bad teams think they are a qb away. A large majority of them are expecting 1 player to be the entire offense and it just doesn't work like that. 

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

So why was Zavala in at LG in the fourth quarter?  Of course, he had a false start to remind us of the 2023 OL.  No word on a potential injury to Lewis?

Heard it was an elbow stinger.

3 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

When?

It wasn't while he was a Panther that's for sure.

4 minutes ago, strato said:

They seem much more measured in their analysis and coverage. I could have missed it but most of the offensive apology worthy stuff was elsewhere.

Yes, it's light on acknowledgement of the difference in performance of the offense. But if the team keeps it up it will be hard for everyone to ignore. I get it, it's one good game out of many, many bad games. I'll take it myself. I know Andy has a pitch count and this will not last all season.  But let's ride it as long as it lasts.

GMFB was giving Canales a little love this morning. 

2 minutes ago, NAS said:

Just heard Florio basically say Panthers are still "dysfunctional" and Bryce deserves a chance to "flourish" somewhere else.  

Good. Maybe another team will buy that and offer up a good trade for him.

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think with a limited timeline with Dalton you need to have somebody in the on deck circle that is being developed.  So draft someone, sign dalton for a couple of years let the guy sit and move forward that way

That should have happened last season. But they got the rookie wrong and Fitterer and or Tepper would not let Young sit for a year. They are now a year behind in developing a rookie because they don't have one yet.

I'm sticking with Vegas at 4.5. If Andy gets hurt we won't win another game. 

Schefter is saying the Panthers are not interested in trading Young at this time. 

8 minutes ago, strato said:

I definitely agree with your scenario about Reich. I think it finally got to the point he wouldn’t play along. Because he knew. 
Matter of fact, Reich got the best out of him, such as it was. 

I'm starting to think Fitterer didn't allow Frank to bench Young.

47 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Trade a third for Sam Howell

Are you insane?

8 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Mike McDaniel I could see if Tua is off the table. He's already headed to minimum 4 week IR, maybe after a few more games the price will be a little nicer for them. Can Bryce beat out Skylar Thompson and Tyler Huntley? Close call on that one

I think it was announced today on nfl network that Tua will be on 8 week IR. I may have misheard that though. 

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Disagree. I REALLY like Cam Ward. I liked him at Washington State and he's been even better with Miami so far. I'd 100% draft him with the 1st pick.

Not a chance if he comes here. This place will curse a rookies career.

Fine. None of them is going to be anything in the nfl anyway.  We need an edge rusher ss well. We will just run it back with the Red Rifle.

One of the funniest movies of all time.

4 minutes ago, Green-Ghost said:

I want to be very careful here. And I sure do not want to offend anybody.  However, I do see this topic as potentially cropping up.
 

do we compete to win games or do we tank to get another 1st place draft pick?

If you're worried about this team winning a lot of games you can put your mind at ease. Vegas is never wrong. 

1 hour ago, Panthers Rhule said:

I'm wondering if there was some agreement coming into this season. Like, if Bryce fails we go to Dalton whenever that is and it just came way faster than anticipated. This team is being retooled. Canales isn't famous for working with young QBs but older ones. 

 

I think in this offense the QB doesn't have to be better than average to win. Just manage the game and don't make turnovers. Geno and Baker aren't above average QBs yet both went to the playoffs in this system. 

 

I haven't made up my mind on Canales even if I've always found him annoying. He makes those weird faces. I don't like that but I liked what I saw the offense was trying to do. There were players open and the run game looked really good we just couldn't use it for very long and benching BY was the right call but ballsy and he took it. I like that. I want to see what happens in the next few games before giving up un Canales. 

It feels completely unplanned to me. Canales ran it by a lot of people because he pulled the trigger. I think the suddenness of it caught everyone off guard. I surely thought he would get half a season from the coach. Tepper is always a wildcard that makes anything hard to predict other than if he gets pissed watch out. But Beyce playing like he did is inexcusable from him. But I thought he would at least get 1 more game. Guess not.

I would love to know the thought that came to Canales mind when watching the film.

1 minute ago, Candler Cat said:

dark cloud following #9 around

Is no one following what's happening in practice? I'm curious to know what the vibe is in practice. 

Andy Dalton.