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Just now, Jaxel said:

Agree about ward, he spends a lot of time with the ball in his hands. Weak class over all but if it's gotta be a QB, I would take Sanders first. Much more of a pocket passing player.

I'm not sold on him either. On top of that his dad is toxic and I do not want him anywhere near Tepper. If you think it's a circus now you haven't seen anything until you have Dion in Teppers ear influencing his decisions.

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Does Dalton have any flaws?

Other than being only a backup that has only 1 game in him a season? No, he seems to be a pretty good dude.

1 minute ago, strato said:

I made another post that was more descriptive of my thoughts on how it may have gone with Wilks but I am of the opinion that if it came down to Bryce Wilks would balk, hard.

 

If he did maybe that was why he didn't get the job.

48 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

He will not have all that time to stand in the pocket and find wide open receivers in the nfl. I need to see him under pressure before I'm a believer that he has what it takes in the nfl. I still say there's not a qb in this draft worth the first overall pick.

3 minutes ago, strato said:

That was after Wilks was gone. I don't know how what I stated was not open ended enough to allow for all of that and not still be accurate. It was more of a comment of the way things went. 

Maybe I misunderstood your post as thinking Wilks would have chosen a different qb. My point was that Wilks would have not gotten who he really wanted either. That's my point. Maybe I shouldn't have had that last White Russian. 

1 minute ago, strato said:

Did you disregard the second line? I guess you did. 

No, I'm saying you're wrong. Bryce was going to be the pick as soon as they traded for the 1st pick. It was decided before the combine. It took a while for Frank to accept his fate so he decided to go along. Wilks would have suffered the same fate.

2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I think they should trade out of #1 if possible to stay in top 5 and get a 2nd in 2024. Just need to add talent. Doesn't matter the position. No reaching. No projects. No workout warriors that didn't produce. 

If someone calls with a ridiculous offer I would listen but otherwise I'm not looking to trade down. Take the best available and call it a night. 

12 minutes ago, strato said:

With Wilks, no Bryce. With Bryce, no Wilks.

I feel pretty sure about that, but I could always be wrong,.

Tepper was picking the qb regardless of who the coach was. If you think Wilks was changing that you are sadly mistaken my friend. 

BPA. Don't overthink it.

2 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

We'll see. I thought he looked good for New Orleans that half of season he played before injury. And while he did get lucky to not throw some ints, he threw some absolute dimes deep down field that Bryce/Dalton could only dream of.

I really don't understand why he hasn't been a starter for a team in the past couple of years. I think 1/4 of the NFL teams would be better with him at QB than who they currently have. 

I could think of worse though to hold us over for a few years while we find our new QB to draft

It's because Winston will only get your team through half the season at most before you have to bench him. You cannot sign him thinking he's a 2 year bridge qb. As a backup? Sure, but if your plan is to start him for a couple of years I doubt you survive as a head coach long enough to see year 2 of your contract. 

Just now, PleaseCutStewart said:

Still think Winston is the best option. Although.. if he plays well the rest of the year, that might price us out for getting him

Dint worry Winston is still Winston. Give him another game or 2 and you will see it.

Not if there are better options available. They will be forced to sign a FA to hold the spot until they decide who is going to replace Bryce. But don't expect someone that will turn this mess into a playoff team all by themselves.

They are still cap strapped and will have to draft their way our of this. It will be 2 more years before this team is competitive even if they do everything right going forward. How much faith do you have of that happening?

I'm not ready to break out the pitchforks yet. This trade is certainly not a reason to call for them. Calm down and save your anger for something that sets the team back a few years at least. 

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

Should have just traded Jackson for a pick straight up. 

In the end that's what happened. They got a 5th round pick and had to give up a 6th and $9M to rent Diontae for 7 games.

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Might as well play Plummer. Red Rocket is NFL old and if Plummer is any way capable as a back up, you can move on from Andy at the end of the season. 

It appears Canales is not ready to make that switch just yet. I think it's going to take an injury for that to happen. I agree that it couldn't possibly be worse but I think Canales feels differently. 

Just now, strato said:

You quoted me but I am not really sure why this thought relates to what I was saying - but I do get that that is the reality of fielding a team on Sunday. 

 

I'm not sure why either. I had too many thoughts running through my head at the time. Nevermind,  carry on.

I'm not sure what everyone is up in arms about. Young had 2 decent drives last game so there's nothing wrong for giving him credit for that. Lord knows there's never been much to praise him for.

4 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I knew the defense was going to take a big step back from last season, and it wasn't special last season.

I also knew they are trying to create a new offensive system.  Which really can't be done with a defense that defend anything. 

Blame tepper all you want 

I blame Morgan and Dave  C for not having a better plan for a consistent pass rush. 

At this point Throw it all in the trash.  What does it even matter when we can't win in the tenches on defense well enough for even a run first offense to be successful. 

I have a feeling there will be a lot gutted in the offseason. 

1 minute ago, strato said:

I wasn’t one of the ‘we have to have an offensive master mind play caller’ people to start with. 
Reich was okay with me but I really only knew a little about him as a coach. Didn’t follow Indy. Knew people considered Irsay a loose cannon. I don’t know that any of it mattered once the stuff started here. 

And I don’t know who went behind who’s back once they were here. None of it matters that much to me in any analytical sense, scene of the crime type of view. All of whatever it could have been or not have been was over when they took Bryce Young.

I don’t blame anyone much for anything after that little bit of undermining the prospects of the team for the next 5 years. And even though Reich was out of here soon enough and we are still eating the same crappy meal and it isn’t a mystery as to why.  

What else can they do at this point in the season? If Andy cannot go it's Young out there. The only way anyone else gets a start is if Young gets hurt. If both are hurt then it's Plummer and probably Luton will be signed to back him up. No one is coming in to save this team this season. 

1 hour ago, Mage said:

This thread sure took a turn.

I wish more folks would learn about the ignore feature on here.

1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

I know its easy to pile on to Tepper. 

I wouldn't want an Owner that didn't meet weekly with the head coach and GM when their team sucks this damn bad. 

The weekly meetings with the owner is why they suck so bad. Chicken/egg kinda thing. 

Yeah the Jets are right there with the Panthers in suckatude.

Burns with his patented spin move to him right out of the play. 

3 minutes ago, strato said:

Well, maybe I ought to look. I heard people say he was setting him up to fail because he didn’t like him. So I ain’t really going to be receptive to that sort of take. 
I guess I just don’t care much for these radio guys any more. Unless they have some kind of inside info I am pretty sure I can figure out what is going on without their help   

 

I think he's reading more into Canales's press conferences. I haven't listened to any of them so I will have to tune in to see how Canales handle those questions. 

4 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

That will probably be Evero. He was expected to take a D that lost Burns, Luvu and other guys and turn it into something great.

If Evero is fired will it be Canales that does it or will it be Morgan? Who am I kidding, it will be Tepper.