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Just now, TD alt said:

Hard crowd.

Just like with any transaction, it depends on the price.

He could cost us nothing and I still wouldn't take the risk.

Just now, Tr3ach said:

I've seen a lot of media people having Graham falling all the sudden on their mocks the past day or so.  Not sure where that's coming from.  If he's there at 8 run to grab him.

It coming from the thought that Jacksonville will take Jeanty and it allows Graham to drop right into our laps.

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I have a feeling they are going to package 57 to move up in the second anyway that's why I mentioned the swap

Giving up pick 57 would be too rich for me as it stands right now. There's just too many players on day 2 that can improve this team. But things might happen on day 1 that could change my mind. 

Just now, MHS831 said:

Lotta people have him as the #1 S

Depends on what you are looking for. There's a reason they both are day 1 selections. I think Starks would be a better fit for the Panthers but they apparently think Emmanwori is the best fit.

Just now, Shocker said:

I hope you are right

I hope I am too. But I rarely am.

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

2023 - gambling suspension 

2024 - PES suspension 

2024 - gun incident 

Too small a window for all that IMO.  I’d want to deal him too. 

Pass 

6 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The Panthers are going to reach for the BC Edge.  Sigh 

Not if Graham falls to them. DT is their main target and he's the best in this class right now. If he's gone and they can trade down it could be for Nolan or Emmanwori.

Just now, Bear Hands said:

The one he proposed is +70 in DAL's favor on value charts (a 4th round value), but given our position (per now Breer, McShay, and more) about giving a team a slight deal), that plus a late-2026 is probably getting it done for us. 

And before you say it, yes, I get that you personally won't do it, but I would caution those exceptions.  

I understand his position but I would use lower round picks to sweeten the deal and keep the 2nd round pick. The chart may say the value is the same but in this draft it's not. The day 2 picks are more important from a talent value perspective. 

I want Mason Graham and Jack Sawyer. After that IDGAF.

32 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

What about a pick swap like Dallas 12 and 44 for 8 and 57?

That's too much. They can give us their second and call it even.  I'm not giving them our second because they would win this trade by a lot. No they give is their second and we give them their 4th back and then we are even.

52 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

I did hear a new report. One team has followed him for two full years, Im talking going to each games and remaining at arms length. The giants have done the most research on him, BY FAR.

 

The issue is if they pass on him at 3, many other teams will follow. He's all over the map in terms of ranks. Anywhere from top 5 to late 3rd.

I forgot where who what, but one assistant coach thats being in the league for a long time, said sanders had the worst interview he's been a part of. He under-dressed Sanders with entitlement and taking needless sacks= no chance at NFL success. He wrapped it up by saying "he's simply not good" is his main problem over the other issues. 

I would say there is some truth in the coaches statement. I would also wager that if his last name wasn't Sanders he would be a 3rd round pick.

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Id say in the past few years verge has made some predictions and was on the money. I cannot stress how hard it is to be right or close to right on draft guesses. Vastly more than not, verge dropped some correct statements. 

Many of those names are linked to Panthers from various visits and reports from other sources. 

@Verge what ended up with that old source you used? I think it was an area scout from Indy. Plus I thought you "retired" from these type of threads(mainly cause of donkeys...)

 

For me this is one of the double double tricks to ruse you to fool everyone type of deals. I can not get over Dave and others commenting/drooling on Walker as a player/leader. It's just sus as all hell. Now we are going to find out if verges smokescreen sources were given mis-leading information or did the national media get lazier with repeating "Panthers absolutely love jalon walker". 

Small part of me believes Panthers do in fact want walker, BUT the dominant side of me is reminded of the last few years of out-comes..

 

To be fair the Panthers could love Walker. That doesn't commit them to drafting him. I'm sure they love a lot of players in this draft. Unfortunately they cannot have all of them. The trick is to get as many of them that can play at this level and that really want to be the best. Those having both of those traits going for them is a challenge. The second part is the hardest to find.

Fine by me. Dude is a monster as long as he wants to play. The question is how bad does he want to? 

I would find a way to swap 1st's with Dallas for their 2nd round pick.  I would even throw in the 4th round pick they traded to us for that wr I can't remember his name. 

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That’s crazy to me. I feel like Graham is one of the few blue chip players.

There must be something we don't know if teams in the top 10 pass on him.

5 minutes ago, BritishPanther said:

I'm all mocked out. That'll do. Bring on tomorrow.

That's not a bad draft if it were to shake out that way.

54 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

It’s gonna make for high drama must-see TV when Shedeur starts dropping come tomorrow night. 

Oh he will drop. His only hope is Shitsburg catching him. If they don't then Cleveland or the Giants will take him on day 2, maybe.

23 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

Saints are signing Olave for his 5th year option, but not OT Penning

 

Saints took Olave in the first and then traded back into rd 1 for Penning.  No surprise on Penning whom was benched multiple games because of poor play.  But they wasted a lot of draft capitol to get him.  Bust.  Olave is also risky because of his concussion issues.

 

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/04/saints-to-exercise-chris-olaves-fifth-year-option-decline-trevor-pennings

Could that mean an OT in the 1st is in play for NO?

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

Sanders - DT

Burch - DT/EDGE

Kennard - EDGE

Knight - LB

Hemmingway - DT

That's 5 defensive front 7 players projected around rounds 2-4.   A lot of it depends on what happens w/ the first pick.   But the defensive front 7 is the red circle on the team I think Morgan will over draft this time over better players.   I'll make a name prediction on which one after they make their Thursday night pick. 

and the Panthers for whatever reason, go to the Gamecock well more than any other University I think in all of college football.

I'm not crazy about their obsession with SC players in the least. It's like it's written into some contract in the FO that an SC player must be taken in every draft. 

I would say your odds of winning that bet is pretty good. I'm not betting against you.

1 minute ago, CRA said:

2nd - 4th round area. 

 

 

That does increase odds in your favor a bit. I'm not sure I can take that bet without at least a list of players that are possible picks in that range.

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

I'll bet anyone on this board a Carolina Huddle Cool Buck that the Panthers will draft someone that wore a Gamecock uniform.  Never been more sure of anything. 

What round?

12 minutes ago, Verge said:

What happens if Carolina does manage to trade down and Mykel goes off the board?

 

Donovan Ezieruaka or Walter Nolen would be the targets 

Emmanwori would be in play in that scenario. 

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

Don't mind the late noise for anyone else, Walker is the pick if he's there. If not they try to trade back. 

They will try to trade back. I don't see a dance partner however. I would put the odds at 90% they are stuck at 8 and will have to take their next best pick. The Huddle will rage as they always do and things will be back to normal. 

14 minutes ago, rayzor said:

so the most accurate mocker there is currently and the the guy who has gotten the panthers pick twice are both calling Walker here at 8? 

starting to think maybe we're getting Walker. 

 

There's been a little talk of him as the pick. I think the only thing that would change that is if he goes before we are on the clock. 

Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

Walter Nolen to Panthers @8 picking up steam 

https://x.com/slickrickscoops/status/1915040547787645113?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

I would not be shocked if he's the pick. They are hell bent on getting a DT apparently and Nolen is probably the best of the group when it's all said and done. I can see it happening.