MHS831

I think Jones will win the job. NY was a horrible situation.

I think Jones will ball out.

No, I am with you--which is why I was using past tense. Now that you have Darnold, if you want to keep your job.... I think he went to Seattle to end his career--congrats for getting a payday, but Minnesota has a knack for making mediocre QBs look good. If Seattle think Darnold is going to make plays when things break down, it will be a long season. Shedeur Sanders is awesome with a clean pocket, but when he gets pressure (like other QBs) it usually does not end well. I think Darnold had clean pockets at USC, and in NY, it was a different world. Sanders will need to be protected as well. I think I would evaluate QBs based on how they play under pressure. Josh Allen was in Wyoming and did not have a lot of protection and weaponry. They said he had accuracy issues, comparing him to QBs who routinely had 4 seconds.

The Wharton signing was the only head scratcher for me yesterday, after Horn. If you put Wharton and Brown together, however, you fill 2 needs for less money that Milton. Milton was weaker vs the run than Wharton, but I thought Wharton was a bit pricey. You don't take a guy who missed half his games on rookie deal and make him the highest paid player in the league at CB--I would have offered incentives, but not guaranteed money--and maybe they did but could not get it done without giving in. My favorite signing? Bobby Brown--playing Tuttle at NT last year made me question his coaching ability. Brown is a one-trick pony, but he does that trick very well. I think we are all going to love Moehrig at SS. The Mike Jackson deal was a relief. But pay more attention to the Pat Jones (Edge) addition. A two year deal for $10m per season, Jones was a rotational player and had 6.5 sacks and 9 tackles for loss and 12 QB hits--as a part time player. He is 26 and has a quick take off--in Panther history, there is a tradition of edge rushers developing late in their rookie deals. Charles Johnson, for example. Greg Hardy. I think it is possible that Jones is breaking out. If we get him for 10m per season for 2 years, that is great.

I am the Seattle GM. I have seen what Darnold does when he is not protected and what he can do when he has a pocket. Darnold is 27. I build the best OL in the NFL. I bring in some WRs. I do not put him on the field with substandard protection or weaponry. You could have a QB for the next 8-10 years if you stack the deck.

Geno. The Raider OL is pretty good and they have a pretty good TE and pretty good (underrated) WRs. But I would not rule out Fields--Id run a lot of pistol, R/P option, and build the OL. He will need weapons.

Shy Tuttle game footage.

I think he will have to compete. I would still draft a DE (3-4) on day 3--there is some talent that deep.

I understand that he is a good locker room guy, but not a good football field guy. He has a history of playing better, but he sucked last year. In fact, his pay should not be cut--he should have to buy a ticket.

Not sure where this is coming from---we will be able to pay a LT if he has earned it. Nobody knows the cap situation in 2 years. Core players get re-signed. Our $150m guards will be ending their deals and over 30. Restructure, cut, etc.

Easy to draft him too

A stud RT who is great at pass pro. All day long in the third

It is leaning to the offense in the draft now. If we don't sign a WR this week, how do you pass on TMac?

what have you heard about him eyeing Stewart?

Prioritized Needs: Free Safety Wide Receiver Linebacker Edge Secondary Needs: Right Tackle (very important secondary need) Tight End (This could be a primary need, depending on perspective) Running Back (Sanders might agree to a pay cut, stay tuned) Corner (It is possible that Evans and/or Bartholomew earned a depth spot at the end of the season. Both were good down the stretch) Defensive End (3-4) Inside Linebacker That is how I see it---

They called us losers when we missed out on the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes a few years ago too. These turds don't know crap. Neither do we. But i feel good about today.

I guess depth behind Brown (NT). He was terrible last year--and I am assuming that the pay cut does not make him immune from being cut.

Yeah Brown is a better fit to meet our biggest need. Wharton can come in and rush the passer--7 sacks? Pretty solid.

We are keeping Tuttle?

I am relieved the Milton deal fell through--about like I was when Cleveland stole Watson from us.

Reading tea leaves: The draft is pretty solid at DT (3-4 DE). I don't think Wharton, and Brown change the fact that we could draft one. Pat Jones does not eliminate a need at Edge. I think we will draft a pure pass rusher. We are still razor thin at CB. Getting Jackson back was huge for us, however. I am not sure how much they like Evans and Bartholomew, but both (especially Evans) played pretty well down the stretch. Good enough depth? Conspiracy theory: Draft Will Johnson and play Jackson at nickel. It seems to me that we now have 2 Strong Safeties. We need a free safety or two. I heard nothing about TE or WR today. Does that mean we will draft those positions? I really like about 4 Tight Ends in this draft, maybe 5. WR? I think the draft is more of a gamble, but I am wondering about TMac right now. The focus in free agency on defense makes sense. Evero has types and in free agency, you can match a skill set to your needs with more precision than the draft. The focus was on stopping the run, and with the exception of Wharton, every defensive player excels in that area. Pass rush is still a concern, imo.

Noooooo! A fifth round rookie would too.

John Donne? Nice!!!

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I missed Tershawn Wharton. Just stumbled over it. Here is how I see the DE Milton Williams failed deal ($26m per year). The Panthers then sign NT Bobby Brown for $7m and DE Wharton for $18m. In other words, the Panthers get 2 solid players for $25m-- $1m less than the Milton contract. WHAT PANTHERS GOT FOR $25m (combined): DE Tershawn Wharton: 7 sacks, 68.3 pass rush grade. 44.3 run defense grade. NT Bobby Brown: 0 sacks, 67.7 run defense grade. Overall PFF rating: 63.3 WHAT PATRIOTS GOT FOR $26m: Milton Williams: 6 sacks, 90.0 pass rush grade. 43.1 run defense grade.