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They call it a rumor in the headlines, but I was careful to frame it as weak or speculative. The headline does not call it a suggestion, but that is what it seems to be. I guess rumors are repeated suggestions or opinions with a supported premise based on facts, data, or logic. Former Steelers Controversial WR Involved in Trade Rumors

We also saved the salary so we could sign a stud RG and WR--about the same money.

Brees was an Alpha--a "dawg" who had swag. Young doesn't seem to have that gene.

When we signed Lewis and Hunt and moved Corbett to G, that was based on the Brees/Payton model.

I think he has read some articles about him being the victim. From some perspectives, he has a point. What did he do in the offseason? How much film did he watch, weights did he lift? balls did he throw? Did he go full Jerry Rice or was he more like Jamarcus Russell?

I have no doubt that Bryce is a good person. However, I think this God talk is a deflection, a strategy to keep the press's venom from his bloodstream. God is not playing Madden 2024, Bryce. Your success is not God's will. God gave you the talent to get this far, what are you giving back to God to show your appreciation? I think you have had incredible success for your size and I think you are a great person--but on the field, past success and your personal relationship with God are supports, not outcomes.

No it is not. If he thinks two of his last 4 games with lower than 100 yards receiving is "out of his hands" then he really is a spoiled, entitled kid. Would it have been done if he threw for 400 yards and 4 TDs per game? No.

It kinda pissed me off at first--these large market team reporters treating the Panthers like a farm team---but it might be a good move. Johnson cost us nothing to get, his salary is not prohibitive for 2024, and we have a first rounder we are developing--I doubt he is re-signed anyway. We are not making the playoffs, so make the trade when you think XL has enough knowledge.

That is my take. if Johnson has a good year, he will want to be paid a lot. if he has a bad year, we aren't re-signing him. We have him for 15 more games, so if we can get XL ready, bring up Coker-I think we could have a good WR group.

https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/diontae-johnson-nfl-trade-rumors-news/ https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/news/new-england-patriots-named-trade-spot-panthers-diontae-johnson These trade rumors are just speculation at this point, but it is an interesting idea. I have seen this rumor on a few sites, but sometimes it starts with one and then it is copied. However, it makes sense. Johnson has a rep for being a "problem child" in Pittsburgh which is why he was so cheap via trade (Panthers gave a sixth for Johnson and a seventh). He is on a one-year deal, and if the Panthers continue to struggle, he could be an interesting trade option before the NFL trade deadline. I expect the new QB situation to elevate his stock, but if XL shows signs of being a legit WR under Dalton, is it possible that we trade Johnson and move XL up? There are many reasons we had to get Young out of there-could this be one? We could then bring up Coker from the PS and possibly draft a WR with the pick we get. Just thinking out loud. Hoping that this has not bee discussed already--I just stumbled across it.

probably already stated, but Jordan Matthews and Eku Leota are on PS

Good moves that involved Morgan: Corbett to C RG, LG While you criticized the Johnson (WR) move, we had limited opportunity to get a good WR--the trade was brilliant. The draft--most teams find 2 or 3 keepers in the draft. 3 is rare, 2 is more common. KEY TRADES The Mike Jackson (CB) and the Johnson (WR) trades were great moves. Jackson cost the Panthers their 2024 7th rounder, a Lb who was not going to make the team; Johnson and a seventh rounder were acquired for a sixth round pick. Now, lets look at the Burns trade--one that many hated. Here is what we lost: OLB Brian Burns and his $30m price tag Here is what we got for the difference between Burns and Clowney: Jonathan Brooks (RB) best RB in the draft (pick 39, 2nd round) C. Smith-Wade (CB) made roster as CB depth (pick 157, 5th round) Robert Hunt (RG) $20m annual salary (average) Jadavion Clowney (Edge) $10m annual salary (average) Without a first rounder, it looks as though we nailed the draft. XL has demonstrated he can play when the ball is thrown to him. Brooks? We will see, but the best RB in the draft in round 2? Value. A stud LB in Wallace and a solid upgrade TE in Sanders. Without a first rounder, we found 4 players who should be regulars by next year. Our seventh rounder became a veteran starting CB. The difference between Clowney and Burns became 2 stud OGs. That allowed Corbett to move to center. While it is to early to know if all these moves pan out, I think the moves were brilliant. He started with a draft that featured a second, third, fourth, and seventh rounder. After the Burns trade, we had 2 seconds, a third, fourth, fifth.... This offseason will define Morgan. Stay tuned.

If Andy can play qb behind a good OL, then this will not be an issue. I would like to see him have success and lead the transition to the next QB. Our problem has been OL--for several years--It is not the case now. Dalton will not be great, but he will be average most of the time. That should be enough

Chuba is looking very strong and is emerging as a leader. In a few weeks, we could have a formidable one-two punch. Peevy has looked remarkably good. Ickey has a tough job and he has shown signs of settling in. I think Mike Jackson has looked strong at CB2. Horn may have been beaten deep Sunday, but he was in great position. he also was strong in tackling.

Is it a coincidence that Tepper was at practice today--talking to players (Dalton being one of them?)

This was the most telling statement made in the entire presser. He is a football coach, not a child psychologist.

I think so, if they can find a partner. Have you heard anything or is this speculation at this point?

Just kidding. I understood that. In fact, I thought you were joking--

That guy on the left represents every uncle I ever had. It was abuse.

This is what Bryce said on the Panthers website in January: "I haven't really had that time to reflect (yet) and to do that self scout," Young said Monday. "I'll definitely sit down, I'll watch every snap, go through it, chart things, figure out strengths and weaknesses, all that stuff. I don't wanna just say something random and it not be the truth. But, I'll know when I get a chance to do that." Let's break that down: "I haven't really had that time to reflect (yet) and to do that self scout," (Yes you have. Every week you have watched film and if you watched it properly, you reflected. That reflection takes you into the weight room, team meetings, playbook, film room with a position coach, etc. This is a cop out, imo. He is dodging the question/issue. "I'll definitely sit down, I'll watch every snap, go through it, chart things, figure out strengths and weaknesses, all that stuff." This is very ambiguous. Go through WHAT? Chart WHAT? WHAT stuff? Understand that Bryce has already watched every snap and he should already know his weaknesses and strengths. If the topic is the offseason workout program, THAT is what he should be planning. He should already know the other stuff. Is it up to Bryce to figure out his weaknesses? Is nobody coaching him? "I don't wanna just say something random and it not be the truth." To me, this is the most interesting statement. This suggests that he is being evasive and there is a separation between what he is willing to share with the press and what he is going to do about it. The season is over and he is not ready to commit to his strategy over the offseason to improve. Does he know his habits and does he know that he will not be doing what the fans and coaches want him to do? Does he mean, "I don't want to say something now, not do it, and then be held accountable later?" I'll know when I get a chance to do that." Again, an evasive answer. After a 2-15 season, knowing what the franchise gave up to draft you #1 overall, would a leader leave the building by making statements like this? Obviously it is difficult to psychoanalyze someone by pulling quotes from an interview, but I can say that I am familiar with leadership styles and effective strategies. I taught doctoral courses in organizational leadership at Gardner-Webb a few years ago, and we would take statements from leaders following a crisis and analyze them in groups or round-table discussions. What I see here is evasive and rather narcissistic. I do not mean egotistical, but the focus is on the self. There is no mention of seeking input from others. No vision of what it is going to take to turn it around, and there is seemingly little empathy for his followers' hardships and needs. I also see a failure to commit to doing what he knows must be done, as if he has been successful without doing what other successful people do. He is a polite victim of his own shortcomings and seems to have no idea what he is going to do about it. That is my take, and often these takes prove to be wrong, fwiw.

You can also see up mini skirts at parties.

Yeah, and it is not consistent with what we KNOW of his demeanor. I guess the reaction should have been more humble, a demonstration of his shortcomings, not entitlement. We gave him nearly twice as many games to demonstrate his ability to play QB that we did Clausen. While he is making millions, our fans are spending millions. If true, getting pissed is probably not the reaction that fans would have expected. But you are right--it is what it is.

Ha ha. He has more than one problem, but if it makes you feel better, being your size can be an advantage. I mean, when it rains, you are the last to get wet. (I am an optimist)

And here we go. You do not know that--if you can't read a defense, that would be under the "knowledge" category. Do you see evidence that he was reading defenses, either pre or post snap? I don't. Blitzes, coverages, matchups--I don't see it. I agree that he is shell shocked, but there is also a point when being "shell shocked" (a temporary condition) becomes complex trauma. The rest of your post is you putting words in my mouth--never said "all it takes was recognition and S2", for example.

The thing that is hard for me to believe is the reports of Bryce's reaction. He is pretty disciplined behind the microphone and his pressers reflect someone who has been coached by the PR department. That is why I tried to present numbers--regardless of his reaction--legit or not--his line chart was not heading in a positive direction. For an illustration of his performance, one of the two charts below is symbolic of his play in Carolina. (hint: See right side)