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Question to the posters on this thread because you are knowledgeable--I love watching and pull for the Canes, but I never played so I don't have the understanding I had when I played football then watched it.  Having said that, Do you think we are weak at Center?  I see the team to be pretty strong on the wings, promising defense, and weak at Goalie.  It would be ideal if the Canes had 1 more position to upgrade, not 2.  I don't think you can count on Anderson to play a full season and he is 35.  However, are we solid at Center in your view?

13 hours ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Hell I was sold around the :50 second mark. 

 

There is one play that sold me-- it was around 2:38, I think.  It was 4th and 1 and the QB telegraphed and threw the ball out wide to TMac.  He had no blocking (the TE was very late) and four defenders collapsed on TMac behind the LOS. They seemed to know it was coming.  He got hit behind the LOS and battled through several hits to get three yards.  THAT play showed me his fire.  

14 hours ago, Basbear said:

Upon rereading @CRA post. I'd like to change my OLman pick to will montgomery. 

I thought either Ryan, will, or hangman. 

Rethinking and still no cheating- Will Montgomery had a looong career for a 7th and started plenty for washington. 

I got to stick with the others.  

Moton would have been a good pick and so would Travelle Wharton--it all depends on who else was selected that pick.  Hangartner was a good one that I never considered.  Montgomery is a great pick

14 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

No cheat, didn't even scroll past your post.

I got two clear ones- Captain Munnerlyn and Josh Norman

 

the next two are my best guesses

 

MIke Minter to round out the DBs

Ryan Kalil as the OLman

 

 

 

NO WAY!!! I did not cheat or read any posts and came up with the same 4.

17 hours ago, CRA said:

Before you click below....

The best NFL draft pick ever at every slot from No. 1 to 262 - ESPN

ESPN just put out a list.  4 Panthers made the list.   3 are DBs.   1 is OL.  Unlimited pie for the first to guess 3 out of the 4 WITHOUT cheating!  I will know if you cheated because you will have gotten it right. 

Have not opened this or read any other posts.

OL:  Ryan Kalil (59)

DB:  Josh Norman  (143)

DB: Captain Munnerlyn (216)

DB: Mike Minter (56)

It was hard finding the DBs....

13 hours ago, lumbeecheraw75 said:

haha and I came here expecting to see this video

https://x.com/RouteGod/status/1939677639935144258

I saw it and was very impressed. XL will step up in the #2 role.  He is perfect for that role.  I am just so excited about our WR corps, I wake up in the middle of the night screaming, "Just throw the ball!!!"  I had no idea my wife kept a bowling ball on her side of the bed for occasions such as that.

19 hours ago, csx said:

The audacity of him getting muddy!

 

The shoes.  Brand new white shoes.  I am sure that went through his mind...Save the shoes or the four wheeler.  Forget the friend--you need smarter friends.

The post says, "Didn't hesitate for a second .... "  Yes he did.  Did you see that he was wearing white shoes?  I'd take it out of Mr. "I think my 4-wheeler is a jet ski"'s ass.  It was probably XL's four-wheeler too.

5 hours ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I know my opinion/stance doesn't matter, but just to be clear, I would be cool if it were like...

If you do this and get hurt, it invalidates your contract.

Versus you are banned from doing this activity being not cool.

Make the player assume the risk for their behavior and danger level.

I think--don't quote me--that based on what the guys I knew said (20+ years ago) it was that way.  I was shooting basketball with a guy who played LB for the Chiefs and he told that he could dunk.  I said, "If you could dunk, you would do it and not tell me about it." He said, "If I broke an ankle, it would violate my contract."  (paraphrasing).  Not sure what would happen if they found out he was playing but did not injure himself.

And your opinion does matter, dammit all to Hell!!!

49 minutes ago, CRA said:

No one is upset.  And what I referred has been happening.  

Patrick Mahomes has an offseason basketball clause in his contract.  A ton of other physical activites like jet skiing, baseball and all sorts of physical activities are written into his contract. 

XL likely already has ATVs and stuff written into his contact.  League already has been inserting a lot of that stuff into basic contracts for non-top tier players and we have seen it pan out.

 

Interesting topic.  I have had a few NFL friends and one told me that he could not work out or train unless the activities and facilities were approved. AI: In many NFL contracts, certain activities are restricted, and injuries sustained during those activities can lead to the voiding of contract guarantees or even the entire contract. These restrictions often include dangerous activities like skydiving, rock climbing, or even engaging in contact sports like boxing. Additionally, injuries sustained while working out at non-team facilities or during personal recreational activities may be classified as "non-football injuries," potentially impacting the player's compensation. 

Having said that, I question the reason the person filming this was not helping.  Secondly, the decision to put it on social media makes it seem a bit prearranged.  I do not think this would violate his contract, but I do think it is a bit stupid on his part in that he could be injured.  

You mean like the sandwich or Superman?

On 6/28/2025 at 1:56 PM, L-TownCat said:

I have very low and I mean very low expectations for Evero’s scheme.  It’s a better roster overall for him to leave Jaycee on one side of the field and the safeties out to dry due to zero QB pressure.

Spoiler:  I don’t like the scheme.

You don't put the spoiler alert at the end, L-Town. Sheez.  I will say that his belief in undersized NTs seems to be behind us.   We got some beef at NT.  

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

 

My biggest beef with the whole Cam era was Ron Rivera never blew a fuse by cussing out the refs or go on a epic rant that cost him 100,000 calling out the hypocrisy with player safety when defenders are head hunting my QB. I know he sent in plays and had contact with league officials, it didn't stop the blatant behavior of scrambling Cams brain when the league had great focus on protecting QBs. The nice guy routine didn't wrong RON and you just didn't want to upset the NFL by going off during and after games. 

 

I do know this as well, after Cam told the reporters " Youre not old enough for that call ". The refs had each others back worse than the cops or married folks, from that point on it was open season. Such petty BS should never happen in a professional league. 

I think that Cam rubbed some refs the wrong way, but I had forgotten this stuff. Should not matter.  I remember being furious with Rivera. I personally think Rivera was the most overrated coach in Panther history--he had Cam, weapons, a great defense--and never had back-to-back winning seasons.  As a Coordinator in San Diego with Norv Turner (I believe) I recall a season when they were #1 on D and #1 on Offense and still struggled to make the playoffs.  

If it ever got out that the outcomes of games were rigged, the NFL would lose fans by the millions. I do not see the risk being worth the reward.  If it were rigged, a lot of people would know and someone would come forward with the proof.  Just a conspiracy theory...However, that is not to say the refs don't have biases.  If you felt robbed in Super Bowl 50, watch Remmers again.  I could have sacked Cam against him with my spinning aerial swim move (copyrighted).  

On 6/26/2025 at 2:28 PM, shaqattaq said:

"To be great is to be misunderstood." - Ralph Waldo Emerson 

Very True--and I am a former HS English teacher.  

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

It's going to be:

N4lo

Legette

AT

Hunter

Coker

Horn

Moore IMO will be a vet PS option, similar to Matthews, and Boone last year. 

Not a Moore fan-but he had a few good games last year-but I want players that scare you--Renfrow's route running and intelligence, Legette's size, speed, and strength, AT's intelligence and route running, Coker's body control, strong hands, and abilty to win contested catches, and TMac's size, body control, and ability to find soft spots in zone coverages.  Horn gives them the ability to stretch the field and he plays special teams. 

 Moore has a nice smile and can dance.  He filled in well last season, but to get better as a team, you have to upgrade your players.  I think Moore is a bottom of the roster guy who got bumped when we drafted 2 WRs and signed a legit free agent. 

Here is the thing--TMac makes us better because he is great against the zone--man?  Good luck with that. 

AT's role can be reduced, and that is probably a good thing.  He can specialize in situational football.

Coker?  Just getting started.

XL?  Just getting started.  Drafting TMac was probably a bit of a wake up call, but XL will be better as the 2.

Renfrow?  I see him splitting reps with AT--keeping both fresh and giving different looks.

Horn?  Watch the safety cheat his side when he is in the game--I see a young Steve Smith type in him, but he has yet to play a game.  I hear that Morgan loves him.

3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Staff led culture leads to player led culture.  

Yup.  the best cultures are not a plan, but an atmosphere.  Pay attention to Canales.  So positive you think he is trying to sell you something.  Eventually, it becomes contagious.  He still makes the tough calls, but he is positive about it (Benching Bryce after 2 games).  

Canales and Morgan are controlling the culture by modeling attitudes and bringing in the right players.  The trick is, let the players think it is their culture because they will protect it.  Assimilation.  Modeling.  Empowerment. 

Renfrow makes the team and becomes part of the rotation-- then he plays well.  Gets NFL comeback player of the year.  You all cheer.  When I say, "I called this in June."  You will say "Pic or it didn't happen."  I will say, "you all disgust me because you are too mired in mediocrity to see my brilliance."  You will give me a poo emoji because that is how you treat greatness.   OK, I'm back.

1 minute ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

You know we getting nipples. Pump it up boys!

If they do not trade back, he could be BPA and I heard they like him. 

VJ should be the pick.  And I just watched videos today and have not kept up, but I was very impressed with his motor and athleticism.  Those kinds of players make teammates better, imo.  I am enjoying reading your comments--I am so much an outsider on this one but I used to love them From Kelly Tripuka and Rambis to Grand Ma Ma and zo---then it is like we quit.

1 hour ago, WUnderhill said:

I hadn’t seen that they singled out the Hornets and Jazz…that sucks. Still they should draft him, I don’t think teams in general should bend to players trying to dictate who drafts them.

Sounds like Kobe Bryant.  John Elway.  Eli Manning.  I sense the Hornets will trade out of the #4 pick.  (I am not a huge fan--just thinking that is what I would do. 

43 minutes ago, Smitty will punch you said:

I was about to say idk if people know how mid or weak wood was, but I’m not sad about him walking 

I think if you can develop a rookie or a player on a first contract, you accept this if he is trending up.  If he is in his prime and making second contract money, nope.

I mean, I would rank the Panthers third in the NFC South right now.  That is the floor.   Penix and Atlanta have been trending upward--I think Tampa is due for a letdown.

I think we always do, but I think Morgan is showing signs of being special.  I am optimistic about our rookie edge rushers.  Maybe we are too hyped about TMac, but I am really warming up to him nd think he could be special.  I think we win 9 based on the fact that we won 5 last year and were only competitive for about half of it.

13 hours ago, Basbear said:

OL everyone but Motown should be better too, they are mostly OL "young" and that was the first season with the OL coaches. Did you know they have a personal coach for C, IOL, and OTs?? They got three OL coaches on this staff, I don't believe any other team has this method. 

 

 

The OL coaches have been really good and we have a core of young talent behind the starters.  I think, if Motown hits the wall and the knee says, "I'm done,"  I see Brady Christensen as a solid backup.  I am so thankful they pulled him away from the IOL duties.  He needs to be a T.  He has to know that his future as a starter might be through Moton, this year or next.  BC turns 29 in September, so he has about a 3-year window as a starter.  But I feel a LOT better about BC behind Moton because he is a quality backup OT.