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"We should have traded Burns" - a rebuttal
carpanfan96 replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Not gonna quote everyone on this but coaches and gms have talked about it. A future first is worth a pick in the middle of its round divided by 2 and that goes down the further out it is. So next year's first from the Rams would have a draft value of a pick in the middle of the 2nd round, the one after that would have a value of a third round pick. That's how draft pick trade valuation works. Every single team uses similar valuation charts -
"We should have traded Burns" - a rebuttal
carpanfan96 replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's not bunk, Draft pick trade value goes down by a round if its in a future draft. That's how the valuation is done in the NFL. The Rams who are horrible this year, could theoretically win the superbowl next year and it's first round pick be 32nd. Since most drafts usually only have about 10-15 prospects that teams have a true 1st round grade on, it significantly lowers the value of future picks because of uncertainty. -
"We should have traded Burns" - a rebuttal
carpanfan96 replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
https://www.panthers.com/news/brian-burns-top-10-pass-rusher-espn-poll-2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/gm-report/nfl-execs-view-brian-burns-as-a-top-10-pass-rusher -
"We should have traded Burns" - a rebuttal
carpanfan96 replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Over the last four seasons, burns win rate on pash rush is top 15. (you can't get that high of a pass rush win with garbage time stats) 2019 - 4th 2020 - 5th [9th in double team %] 2021 - top 20 2022 - 15th He's also 11th in sacks since 2019 as well. NFL executives have him as a top ten pass rusher in the NFL, the stats show this as well. You absolutely don't trade a top 10 edge rusher for what's essentially 3 2nd round picks. -
"We should have traded Burns" - a rebuttal
carpanfan96 replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Most teams don't view future firsts as firsts. Trade chart or value wise was 2 second rounds and a 3rd or 3 seconds. Burns is double teamed a lot and still got 12.5 sacks. It's hard to find that production in the NFL. 8 players in the NFL with 12+ sacks. Most are on stacked dline teams -
Wilks Set This Team Back
carpanfan96 replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's how you double a wr, safety coverage over the top in cover 2. Which was called on one of the throws. Quarters was the other one that also should've had safety help over the top. Safety blew one of the coverages completely and was late moving on the other. Neither of those two throws would've been completed the way they were if coverage was correct -
That combined with the fact that Wilks did as well as he's done with a fairly bad team, none of his coaches really or his system in place. I'd not be shocked if Wilks gets the job.
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They weren't on an island on one of them for sure and most likely on a second. Safety didn't get over the top like he was supposed to on cover 2 and another one was quarters and the safety was supposed to slide over to help over the top since nothing was going into his zone. I say probably because Brady thew the throw against quarters early which impacted the safety being able to recover
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Wilks Set This Team Back
carpanfan96 replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
You'd be wrong about the coverage on at least one of the bombs and most likely a second. Safety messed up his coverage on the one against Taylor but Brady threw it early and made a great throw. -
They are going to interview other coaches but they have to, Wilks will get a serious chance at the job and get interviewed for it. I won't be surprised if he wins the job either.
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5-6 with a team that won 11 out of 38 games... Let's not forget that and if you listen to the post game, at least one of the deep touchdowns was because a safety didn't play the coverage that was called. Let's not talk about Arizona, he didn't get to pick his staff or have input on draft picks or free agency signings.
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One of the plays was on the safety, the cb was supposed to have help over the top and the safety went to the middle instead of over the top like he was supposed to. Can't remember which one of them but you can go back at pre snap and see it's cover 2.
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So How did Norman and Darnold play?
carpanfan96 replied to YourLastThought's topic in Carolina Panthers
Norman barely played at all. Darnold played well, he had some turnovers though. His interception was a good read but a bad throw. The fumble that cost the game was a blindside hit where ickey got made to look like a turnstile and Darnold had no time to throw because of it. He got hit pretty fast on that play. -
How much to move up to #2 in Draft?
carpanfan96 replied to bLACKpANTHER's topic in Carolina Panthers
If you think Stroud or Young is it, then you go for it. Hopefully it takes less but they need a franchise qb that can come in and start soon -
After the Rhule hiring and the turnaround the team had combined with the fact that he didn't have his system in place or his coaches.. You'd be foolish to think he doesn't have a very good chance
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It's a deeply flawed team that he took over, that has a large part of it.
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The defense got pressure against a very good pass protection oline. Expectations of our DE's constantly getting pressure against Brady and the Bucs was foolish cause it wasn't going to happen.
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How much to move up to #2 in Draft?
carpanfan96 replied to bLACKpANTHER's topic in Carolina Panthers
3 firsts and a 3rd to move into the top 2 most likely -
Big time players show up in big time games
carpanfan96 replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
You are expecting too much from an edge rusher against the Bucs and Brady. 21 sacks all year with very few from the edge. Best way to disrupt Brady is to make him move into the outside rush with pressure up the middle. -
Speed rush sack on icky to end the season is kinda fitting since he's struggled with speed rushes all season. Sack number 7 or 8 given up on the year for him. Had that good stretch in the middle of the season though, so future is bright at least at LT.
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Brady is hardly ever sacked from the edge. TB given up 21 sacks counting the ones in this game all year. Got to play disciplined on the outside both at the line and deep for the CB's. Get your pressure up the middle and make him move in the pocket.
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Playing to his strengths, middle of the field to TE's/slots, quick flat throws, rollout/bootlegs , play action passing.