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7 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

whoa....hadn't thought about that guy in a long time. he was pretty good at catching the ball and falling down.

1 minute ago, Pup McBarky said:

As long as Leftwich is calling plays, I wouldn't count on that kind of continuity. He may be the best offensive playcaller in the business right now. Definitely top 5. They literally made a mockery of the World Champions' defense.

i think we'll take them.

17 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Tampa may be the Rolling Stones of football.

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

It seems like it is hard for some of these young QB's to recover from tough first stops in the NFL. I wish it was just as easy as being able to forget it all.

2 parts involved in overcoming.

1) mindset of the person trying to overcome (am i broken or am i growing?)

2) your environment (the people you are surrounded by and the people in your ear)

i think Sammy has it good on both of those.

People who have been watching him and talking to him talk about just how resilient and positive he is.

He also has the best coaching he could have asked for in coming from that dumpster fire in New York/Jersey.

1 hour ago, bigdavis said:

I can't agree with that "ridiculous continuity" statement.

It's a common idea that each SB champ will be the next year's favorite to repeat.  But as this list shows, it doesn't work out that way;

https://www.topendsports.com/events/super-bowl/winners-list.htm

No repeaters in the last 10 years! If anything, THAT's continuity -- the inability to repeat.  In fact, only 3 of those last 10 winners even GOT to the SB the next season.  Why?  Complacency, salaries, trades, parity through drafting?  Who knows; but it is a trend, not an outlier that SB winners don't repeat, regardless of "experts" forecasts.

I grant you that Tom Brady has won 4 of the last 10, but that's HIS continuity, not the team's.  Anyway, don't anoint them just yet.

and i know it may seem like it, but brady is not immortal.

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Of course getting to the Super Bowl is extraordinarily difficult, getting back is even more so with every opponent looking to knock off the champs.

However, Tampa has taken the first important step in their goal of returning to the championship game:

... the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' main task during the off-season was to 'keep the band together,' which they accomplished in unprecedented fashion.

All 22 starting players who took the field against the Chiefs will be back in action in Florida next season. The likes of TE Rob Gronkowski, MLB Lavonte David, WR Antonio Brown and RB Leonard Fournette (and many more) all signed back on for another crack at the Super Bowl, with QB Tom Brady at the helm.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers-draft-picks-2021-who-buccaneers-pick-full-list-selections

the question is, how long are they going to be able to keep that aging band together and just how effective will they be as time goes on?

personally, i hope that the bucs do everything exactly the same this year. easier to figure out and stop.

1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:

Don't forget the continuity of going with Shula after Ron's first OC left. That was supposed to have been better for Cam instead of bringing in someone from outside the team.

great example! i don't have a problem with continuity, though I'm more a fan of adaptation and evolution and continually trying to get better. 

if you're doing something right, keep doing it until it doesn't work anymore.

if it's not working out so great, though....move on. in that context, continuity is overrated.

1 hour ago, rippadonn said:

Yeah, not happy about Tampa. They've basically got (statistically)a beast in Kyle Trask watching learning and waiting behind Brady. 

how many QBs followed in Brady's shoes over the years and became a dominant force themselves?

47 minutes ago, stbugs said:

They won the SB, obviously Tampa has a good lineup. Continuity is a good thing. Let’s not try to act like we are talking about the least talented team returning 22 starters. Continuity would still be good there but the talent is poo. Continuity can allow a healthy OL to play better than they are.

and continuity can allow a bad OL to continue being bad.

Continuity can be a good thing. it can also be a bad thing. it depends on the context and what you are trying to continue. hurney and JR thrived on continuity....and that got us stuck.

Tampa is going to depend on their ability to continue doing next year what they did last year. they found a formula that works.

We rarely found something that worked...and when we did we either shot ourselves in the foot and dismantled everything (2014 vs 2015) or kept trying to do the the same thing over and over because it worked once upon a time even though it had ceased working (the whole fox era). typically our continuity resulted in a continuation of mediocrity. 

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Continuity is not always good? What could that possibly mean?

hurney and rivera bragged about having 20 of 22 starters returning. that's continuity.

what was the problem? half of them shouldn't have been starting.

continuity can be good, but it can also be bad if what you are trying to continue is ineffective or mediocre.

33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

These guys are young. Dumb comes with that.

not with all of them, and its not a great excuse.

but it sure was true for me. i grew out of the young part. the dumb.... i'm still a work in progress.

2 minutes ago, Floppin said:

It's like TRD reborn but as a Teddy fan.

Lol could be. 

7 hours ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

Teddy Bridgewater is a coach maker

Of all pegs to hang your hat on, you pick this one....TB.

I guess everyone needs a fan. Go get 'em, tiger.

Have fun on the bronco boards.

I don't know that I'm a Ibe-liever yet, but I'm hopeful. Thanks for pointing this out. You might be onto something. I hope you are.

5 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Then we stick him on #1s every week.  If they wont throw at him out of fear, we got we wanted.

We worried about this Pitts pick, but then we got Horn. Fear = gone.

Put either Chinn or horn on him, then that particular threat is neutralized. I mean they still have a couple other 'ok' WRs, but they had them before and they still picked 4th.

Good enough to deal with any big WR he faces.

Good enough that QBs will test him for a short period of time them will avoid throwing his way which will result in low stats for him.

Good enough to quickly be the best CB we ever had and in the next couple years the best in the division.

the reason i'm excited about tremble is that he is a pancake waiting to happen. 

but yes, arnold is an underrated receiving option.

i think between these two guys TE is going to be a strength.

2 hours ago, ickmule said:

He’s haunted by ghosts now. I hate to say it, but he won’t overcome that. I’m starting to think this staff has no idea what a good QB is.  As much as I feel Cam is done this team would have won the same amount of games with Cam as they did with Teddy. 

or it could be that you have no idea what you are talking about.

teams are right. could be legit. last game would be @HST though. would be weird to not finish against NFCS, but it could happen.

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