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#16 MadHatter

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:51 AM

I gotta admit, my knowledge of Stephenson was rather limited prior to this year / offseason. All I knew was that he was a highly rated prep player who until last year never really lived up to the hype. 

 

The past few days I have watched every Stephenson video on youtube and damn I was quite uninformed. This guy is a complete beast of a SG prospect. His handles, passing, defending, rebounding, finishing through contact, etc is all top notch. 

 

I honestly have a hard time thinking of better SG prospects in the NBA id rather have. Wade and Kobe are aging and have injury concerns. 

 

The only reason this guy doesn't average more points is because he is too unselfish. Stephenson imo can score or get buckets at will with his handle and array of moves. Not to mention creating dimes for other teammates. He was a bit overshadowed in Indy due to West and PG. I feel like here in Cha being a top option, he will average 18-22/5/5. 

 

I am afraid we are gonna be giving this guy a big long term contract in 1-2 years. Which wont be a bad thing imo. 

 

I was quite bummed we did not get Heyward, but now I am almost thinking Stephenson might just be potentially a better player for us overall. 

 

I can not wait to see him and Kemba in the backcourt together. 

Although I completely agree with you that Lance is a great signing and will be a major player for us, be careful not to read too much into youtube highlight clips. 



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:45 AM

I am solely looking at skills when I watch a highlight. Ie handle, vision, shot mechanics, etc etc. I've seen many a highlight where not much skills were present beside wide open dunks and made jumpers. Gotta know what kind of Thi go to look for.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:38 AM

If the "Hive Comes Alive" like I think it might and we can get a 3 seed or better the next two years and advance in the playoffs, Lance won't be going to New York or anywhere else.
MJ runs a MKUltra program in the basement of TWCA. Lance is in nest...there is no escape.


I only understood about two-thirds of that but for some reason it got me hype.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:23 AM

I am solely looking at skills when I watch a highlight. Ie handle, vision, shot mechanics, etc etc. I've seen many a highlight where not much skills were present beside wide open dunks and made jumpers. Gotta know what kind of Thi go to look for.


What excites me is that he has a complete game...shooting, defense, half court offense, ball handling, etc. combined with the fact that he has the skillet to also drop 40 on any given night and that he is fearless and tough as nails.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:33 AM

You were told.

Welcome aboard the Lance train.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:41 AM

We all put up with Stephen Jackson's bs and didn't get near the return that we should get from Lance. I'm firmly on board this train.


Good point. That's the first time it's been said around here. (sarcasm)


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:57 AM

I'm hoping that us taking a chance on him is a big factor. Think if Charlotte fans embraces him and gives him a fresh start without hanging is past over his head every time he turns around (wipe the slate clean) could also play a big factor.


Tell that to Rick (Bonnell).


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 07:14 AM

Stephenson is a complete package. From a basketball standpoint, he can do everything. He has great size and athleticism. He's still very young, yet experienced. He's the ultimate competitor & has a great work ethic.

Not saying it's gonna happen, but Stephenson has the tools to be a top 5-10 player in the NBA. I think he can develop into a superstar that is the centerpiece of a championship team.

Just by watching him play you see flashes of a great player that can do things that most players simply cannot. I don't find it hard to see why Bird & MJ love this guy so much. They were both hard workers & ultimate competitors. Just like Lance.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 08:19 AM

I meant to ask... but, I didnt get to see Lance's full presser b/c of buffering issues on my phone. So, was Cho asked what this meant for Hendo?

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 08:37 AM

What excites me is that he has a complete game...shooting, defense, half court offense, ball handling, etc. combined with the fact that he has the skillet to also drop 40 on any given night and that he is fearless and tough as nails.

 

His shooting needs to get better for me to label him the total package. 

 

35% is just respectable. 

 

If he can shoot 40+% from 3 then he will def be the complete total package. 

 

Lance's problem is that he is too unselfish. We are gonna need him to look to score more for us than what he is use to or prefers to do. 



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:37 AM

I meant to ask... but, I didnt get to see Lance's full presser b/c of buffering issues on my phone. So, was Cho asked what this meant for Hendo?


-Charlotte offers Henderson to Orlando

-Charlotte offers Henderson to Denver

-Charlotte drafts PJ Hairston

-Charlotte signs Lance Stephenson


I think it's pretty clear what it means for Henderson and how the team views him.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:42 AM

His shooting needs to get better for me to label him the total package.

35% is just respectable.

If he can shoot 40+% from 3 then he will def be the complete total package.

Lance's problem is that he is too unselfish. We are gonna need him to look to score more for us than what he is use to or prefers to do.


Ray Allen & Reggie Miller are arguably the two greatest 3pt shooters in basketball history. They shot .398% & .395% from 3pt, respectively, for their career.

In order for you to consider Lance a good 3pt shooter and a complete player he needs to be the greatest 3pt shooter of all time.

Brilliant analyst.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:50 AM

Ray Allen & Reggie Miller are arguably the two greatest 3pt shooters in basketball history. They shot .398% & .395% from 3pt, respectively, for their career.

In order for you to consider Lance a good 3pt shooter and a complete player he needs to be the greatest 3pt shooter of all time.

Brilliant analyst.

 

One thing to point out, Allen and Miller did that on many attempts a game. When you only take a few a game it can slightly skew your real percentages. If I had to bet id say Lance takes considerable less 3's a game than those two. 

 

I guess it depends on how you are looking at or defining a complete player. ie Someone that is great at everything vs. Someone who has no holes in their game. 

 

Outside of being more aggressive offensively, Lance doesn't have a single hole in his game. So on second thought,  I wouldnt object to someone labeled him a complete player. 



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:27 AM

Lance is one of the most aggressive offensive players in the league. You don't have to shoot 40 times to be aggressive. He's a ball dominant player who is either shooting or driving & creating for teammates almost every play.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:31 AM

-Charlotte offers Henderson to Orlando

-Charlotte offers Henderson to Denver

-Charlotte drafts PJ Hairston

-Charlotte signs Lance Stephenson


I think it's pretty clear what it means for Henderson and how the team views him.


The Henderson supporters don't believe you


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