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Not Panthers News, But Some of you will be happy at this suspension

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2 weeks for Ray, and he'll lose more pay than Stephen A.

Two games is what's important - not the practice in between them.

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Like I tell my son, it's OK to protect yourself of course, but you can usually restrain as opposed to beating the poo out of a woman in those instances. 

 

Ahh, but did Hardy beat the poo out of her in his case? There were no scratches on her when it actually happened. Ray Rice actually knocked the poo out of his fiancé. Literally. Hardy didn't do sh(t wrong.

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Ahh, but did Hardy beat the poo out of her in his case? There were no scratches on her when it actually happened. Ray Rice actually knocked the poo out of his fiancé. Literally. Hardy didn't do sh(t wrong.

 

Well, that's why I haven't really said anything about the Hardy situation.  

 

Like I tell my son, "More than half of the battle is just keeping yourself out of certain situations."

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Well, that's why I haven't really said anything about the Hardy situation.

Like I tell my son, "More than half of the battle is just keeping yourself out of certain situations."

Just playing devil's advocate....isn't that what SAS was trying to say to women?

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Just playing devil's advocate....isn't that what SAS was trying to say to women?

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Yeah, women would do well to to keep themselves out of certain situations as well.  

 

 

We live in a helluva world.  Someone up there monitoring the human race has to be shaking their head.

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When that debate show is on a major network they can do whatever they want if they feel their employee was out of line.

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I guess so, but I just don't see the point of having a show based around debates and discussion where you are limited in what you can say.  I'm sure every person on this board has a conversation every day in which our opinions would leave someone shaking their head. It seems nothing can be said anymore unless you side with the victim. Anything else deems you a suspension, fine, or a firing. The only opinion you can have is the popular one. But hell, that's ESPN in a nutshell.  

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I guess so, but I just don't see the point of having a show based around debates and discussion where you are limited in what you can say.  I'm sure every person on this board has a conversation every day in which our opinions would leave someone shaking their head. It seems nothing can be said anymore unless you side with the victim. Anything else deems you a suspension, fine, or a firing. The only opinion you can have is the popular one. But hell, that's ESPN in a nutshell.  

 

 

You're right. It's really any big business. ESPN has many stakeholders to consider so they have an obligation to be politically correct. I get what he was trying to say, but it certainly could (and did) be misinterpreted. Not to mention the group that was offended were women.

 

He should have phrased it better, but he didn't deserve a week off.  

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What fuging pisses me off the most is deadspin trashing him for a heartfelt apology.

 

I like deadspin sometimes but they are such a bunch of pompous, hypocritical, liberal fugs it makes me so mad.

 

I literally watched that and thought...wow this is one of the best apologies I've ever heard. I gained so much respect for SAS, and I already respected him a lot before because he's an accomplished, well educated and spoken journalist that is comfortable in his OWN SKIN (something many journalists can't do and it makes them fuging hacks)

 

What happens next? Suspension and trashed by deadspin

 

fug this country, man

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This isn't the first time Stephen A mentioned this line.  He talked about it during the whole thing with Chad Johnson headbutting his girlfriend or wife at the time.  I think the biggest difference between that time and this is Michelle Beadles comments, and the whole injustice of Rice getting the two game suspension.  This is probably not just within black culture or within black families, but I think a lot of black people automatically got the drift of what Stephen A was getting at.  Mostly not to hit a man and partly not getting in his face.  He should have clarified what he was talking about, and sadly they couldn't discuss it this past Monday.  People were offended with Stephen A's talk concerning racism and probably his comments on Tony Dungy, so I have a problem with ESPN not allowing this debate to continue Monday.  I can't see First Take anymore in the same way after this incident and cover up.

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