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[Jackofalltrades]

I don't lend much weight to the millions of talking heads that scour out from under their rocks this time of year, but I do have a couple sources that I really value and respect. First is Mayock, second is Draftcountdown.com.

Draftcountdown(DCD) did an updated mock to reflect declared Jr's and with out Luck. I noticed they had us taking Fairley, but I didn't read their comments. I was doing some reading on some prospects and revisited the mock to find this excerpt.

"To say Fairley had an amazing junior season would be an understatement and he was arguably every bit as dominant as Ndamukong Suh was as a senior at Nebraska, which is really saying something."

That's a hell of an endorsement.

http://www.draftcoun...ock-Draft-A.php

Suh is a shoe in for DPOY, would be terrific to find ourselves in a similar position next season, knowing we have a dominant front 4, possibly 7 and probably D.

Thouhts?

[Stumpy]

Was Fairley a disrupting force in the middle? Absolutely. Was he a game changer on D? Without a doubt. Was he the dominant force that Suh was his senior year? No.

Suh was not only a beast at getting in the backfield and making plays, but he was also a tackling machine. He had more tackles (82) than many starting linebackers, to go along with his 12 sacks. Those numbers were astronomical for a DT.

I like Fairely, not sold on him #1 yet (not sold on anyone else either) But comparing him to one of the best CFB DT's of the last decade is a bit of a stretch.

[KJDaniel31]

I just don't agree. I don't see that Fairley was as dominant as Suh was, but I feel that Suh was the best defensive player in the NCAA of the last 10 years. Fairley was very good, and while I am not as high on his NFL projection as others are, he had a great year this year. I just can't put him in Suh's league.

[PantherFan52]

Suh is heads and shoulders better than Fairley, IMO. Suh is someone who can handle double teams and just flat out own anyone in a one on one situation. Fairley is more of a gapshooter, and wouldn't do well fighting against double teams.

And I don't think Suh is a shoe in for DPOY. Could he win rookie of the year? Hell yes, but I think Matthews will win POY.

[Jackofalltrades]

Sorry, meant DROY for Suh, agree completely about Mathews.

I'm just reporting what I read from a very credible and widely respected source.

Do I agree? Dunno, but I think our entire D gets far better with him in the middle.

[CatMan72]

Even if Fairley is only 80% of Suh we could really use him.

[Stumpy]

I'm just reporting what I read from a very credible and widely respected source.

Wasn't meaning to shoot the messenger. I just get annoyed with the hyperbole most draftniks use when describing players coming out...

Luck=Peyton Manning, PP=Dieon Sanders, Fairley=Suh

Not to mention the opposite...

Ryan Mallett=Rayn Leaf because of one drinking ticket?!?

[Stumpy]

Even if Fairley is only 80% of Suh we could really use him.

From the look of our current DT's, if he is 80% of Kemo we could use him.

[Kevin Greene]

I don't lend much weight to the millions of talking heads that scour out from under their rocks this time of year, but I do have a couple sources that I really value and respect. First is Mayock, second is Draftcountdown.com.

Draftcountdown(DCD) did an updated mock to reflect declared Jr's and with out Luck. I noticed they had us taking Fairley, but I didn't read their comments. I was doing some reading on some prospects and revisited the mock to find this excerpt.

"To say Fairley had an amazing junior season would be an understatement and he was arguably every bit as dominant as Ndamukong Suh was as a senior at Nebraska, which is really saying something."

That's a hell of an endorsement.

http://www.draftcoun...ock-Draft-A.php

Suh is a shoe in for DPOY, would be terrific to find ourselves in a similar position next season, knowing we have a dominant front 4, possibly 7 and probably D.

Thouhts?

High praise indeed. Serious reservations however about the "One year wonder" factor for Fairley. Suh kicked serious ass for 3 years in College. Big difference.
http://www.huskers.c...0&ATCLID=157537


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[PantherFan52]

It would be nice to have some constant pressure up the middle. I actually find it remarkable that CJ had double digit sacks this year without the presence of a good DT. It won't fit the movement we're going in, and I know it won't happen, but I pray to the football Gods that we get Richard Seymour. That way, we can go either Peterson or Green with the first pick.

[Jackofalltrades]

High praise indeed. Serious reservations however about the "One year wonder" factor for Fairley. Suh kicked serious ass for 3 years in College. Big difference.
http://www.huskers.c...0&ATCLID=157537


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Difference is Fairley was a JUCO transfer. According to AU fans he started slow learning the system and got better every game. Suh had more time and coaching. This year, as I'm told, he didn't have to think, so he just wreaked havoc.

[Fright]

Suh came in with a lot more "high level" games under his belt from college. So I think it'll take Fairley longer to adapt to the pro level. Suh is one of the most athletic guys I have seen for his size and could run down plays like a LB while shredding doubles.

Fairley may have the aggressiveness (probably more) and the strength of Suh, but I dont think he'll ever be as good as Suh is over all.

I do agree that he'll be an instant upgrade on our line, but I still feel we need as many options for Clausen if we're sticking with him. Our offense was pathetic. I believe Green will be another immediate impact player and will hopefully give him (Clausen) no excuses to blow balls after next year and could help open up our run game a bit more by removing safeties more regularly.

I don't think I'll be against drafting Fairley if they do decide to go that way. I just hope all the praise and hype around him from 1 year isn't all for nothing. I'd hate to have a shitty year rewarded by a shitty #1 draft pick.

[JawnyBlaze]

Look, Fairley is a great player and was dominate at the college level, but he isn't Warren Sapp, Ndamukong Suh, or whatever defensive tackle you think he is, he's Nick Fairley...and Fairley is starting to develop a reputation of not being a team leader or a standup guy.

Fairley isn’t the slam-dunk that Suh was and there are concerns about his maturity and work ethic that teams will have to investigate before feeling comfortable investing a Top 3 pick, let alone #1 overall.

Top one is from drafttek.com and the second one is from draftcountdown.com

Again, I wouldn't be upset if we draft Fairley, he has a pretty good chance of being a good-great player. I just think in the long run Green will help our team better and will be a better player.

[thunderraiden]

I see a lot of ryan leaf in ryan mallet tho .______________________.

[PantherPride52]

If the Panthers don't think Blaine Gabbert is a future franchise QB then they have to draft Nick Fairley. They've got to know they can't go into next season with Nick Hayden and Derek Landri as their starting DT's.