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#31 GritsRgreat

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 11:21 AM

Yep, Fairley = Sapp

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:30 PM

Mayock said Fairley would bust in the NFL? I havent heard that

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:35 PM

Our d will get better with Fairly, Bowers or Peterson. Question is, who makes us better the most, the quickest and for long term?


marcell dareus

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:38 PM

Mayock said Fairley would bust in the NFL? I havent heard that


he's not the the only one who thinks fairley won't cut the mustard.

fairley has to have a supporting cast around him to be successful.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:39 PM

Wasn't Suh playing much harder competition?




Based on what analysis? Oh that's right.....pulled it out of your ass.

The competition that Fairley played in the SEC was every bit as tough as the competition that Suh played against in the Big 12.

Fairley reminds me more of Warren Sapp......build, explosiveness, attitude, etc... And yes, I would take a Warren Sapp on my team.


Madhatter you always act like you have a chip on your shoulder, all your posts are defensive its getting old. Are you sexually frustrated or something? How can I pull a question out of my ass? Believe it or not that was an actual question, my second statement was my opinion.

and go jack off, take meds or something thanks.

Edited by FortySixand2, 26 January 2011 - 12:42 PM.


#36 Seamonk

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:49 PM

I'm beginning to think that our "need" at DT may be unwarranted. Seeing as that the Rivera defensive DT and the Fox defensive DT are asked to do two completely different things. I'm not sold we need a DT as badly as a QB or WR or CB anymore. Then again.. we could use one.. you know.. Just to be safe :D

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:55 PM

marcell dareus


you think he would be as productive in a 4-3 defense?

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:15 PM

you think he would be as productive in a 4-3 defense?


yes.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:21 PM

Madhatter you always act like you have a chip on your shoulder, all your posts are defensive its getting old. Are you sexually frustrated or something? How can I pull a question out of my ass? Believe it or not that was an actual question, my second statement was my opinion.

and go jack off, take meds or something thanks.


Wah...Wah....Wah......you still sound like a whiney little 10 yo girl.

You are a typical ill-informed fan.

"Fairley is no where near the talent of Suh....Why...because I say so".....thanks for the analysis

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:31 PM

Eh i could see why people think Suh was better, due to the media attention he got during his college years. But, looking at it from a football mind perspective they are about the same, both can handle double teams, both of their footwork is great, they are quick off the line..and can get into the backfield(Speed, Strength or just disciplined technique)..I mean both had pretty identical stats in their last years of college, the big difference to me is Fairley was doing this in the SEC West..by far the best group of teams in the country. Sure..both had their share of cupcakes but playing at a high lvl vs LSU, MSU , Bama, Arkansas..to me shows a lot.

Edited by TyHillPanthers, 26 January 2011 - 01:36 PM.


#41 MadHatter

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:34 PM

Eh i could see why people think Suh was better, due to the media attention he got during his college years. But, looking at it from a football mind perspective they are about the same, both can handle double teams, both had pretty identical stats in their last years of college, the big difference to me is Fairley was doing this in the SEC West..by far the best group of teams in the country. Sure..both had their share of cupcakes but playing at a high lvl vs LSU, MSU , Bama, Arkansas..to me shows a lot.


Agreed.

None of us know whether Fairely, Petterson, Green, etc.. are going to bust or be beasts in the NFL. If we did, we would all be working as scouts and employed by NFL teams.

Fairley has the tools to be nasty in the NFL. Will he? Yet to be seen.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:52 PM

I mean both had pretty identical stats in their last years of college, the big difference to me is Fairley was doing this in the SEC West..by far the best group of teams in the country. Sure..both had their share of cupcakes but playing at a high lvl vs LSU, MSU , Bama, Arkansas..to me shows a lot.


Individual stats do not tell the whole story my friend.

Fairley played for an Auburn team that averaged 41.2 PPG. Meaning opposing offenses were playing catch-up most of the games. Auburn's offense allowed their DL to pin their ears back on almost every play.

Nebraska's offense averaged only 25.1 PPG in 2009.

Also, Fairley averaged about 4 tackles/game. Suh averaged about 6 tackles/game. Two tackles per game may not seem like much, but in the NFL it is the difference between Jon Beason (121) and Kirk Morrison (89)

Edited by Stumpy, 26 January 2011 - 01:57 PM.


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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:03 PM

Individual stats do not tell the whole story my friend.

Fairley played for an Auburn team that averaged 41.2 PPG. Meaning opposing offenses were playing catch-up most of the games. Auburn's offense allowed their DL to pin their ears back on almost every play.

Nebraska's offense averaged only 25.1 PPG in 2009.

Also, Fairley averaged about 4 tackles/game. Suh averaged about 6 tackles/game. Two tackles per game may not seem like much, but in the NFL it is the difference between Jon Beason (121) and Kirk Morrison (89)


But, if Auburn opponents were playing catch-up and not running the ball, Fairley would have fewer "tackles" per game.

Love how you discount individual stats....and then use another individual stat to try and prove your point.

Fact is that both had fantastic seasons. Both are freak athletes. And none of us have a clue how he will perform in the NFL.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:08 PM

Individual stats do not tell the whole story my friend.

Fairley played for an Auburn team that averaged 41.2 PPG. Meaning opposing offenses were playing catch-up most of the games. Auburn's offense allowed their DL to pin their ears back on almost every play.

Nebraska's offense averaged only 25.1 PPG in 2009.

Also, Fairley averaged about 4 tackles/game. Suh averaged about 6 tackles/game. Two tackles per game may not seem like much, but in the NFL it is the difference between Jon Beason (121) and Kirk Morrison (89)


You would be correct, but how many games were really blow outs? 7 of the 15. Nebraska had 6 blow outs in Suhs last season..The rest were pretty close and the ones where it showed Fairleys worth the most was that second South Carolina game, Clemson OT win, The come back win on Bama, MSU tight defensive game. LSU Game. The rest were pass happy anyway and i think sacks is a pretty good indication of talent, in any level of football (on the D line and more importantly , Defensive Tackle).

And even if you wanna have that argument take Auburns 41ppg and Nebraskas strength of schedule against inferior talent (in conference) and it will balance itself out. But look at how they play they are very similar.


Im not saying that Fairley is better..but to go out on a limb to say Suh is head and shoulders above fairley..is false. To me I think they're neck and neck.

Edited by TyHillPanthers, 26 January 2011 - 02:19 PM.


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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:15 PM

We don't have a DT as far as I'm concerned, it's absolutely our biggest need.

Coefield is more of a NT type no? Fairley is classic UT, gap penetrator. I'd love to land Coefield, but we still need two DT's.


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