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DAMN YOU CAM NEWTON!! (for allowing the lions to score 7 TDs)


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#151 footballisasport

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:42 PM

Most of us who wanted to start Matt Moore weren't thinking to do it to tank to get andrew luck at all. I can only speak for the handful of people who didn't want to go QB first but wanted to go D instead... I was hoping our defense would be good enough with good drafting and FA pickups, and with a new system, Moore could win us some games. I was thinking if we still needed a QB next year, and if we ended up in position to draft one, we could get a guy next year (didn't expect it'd be Luck tho), but that was because I didn't think Cam was anywhere close to as good as he actually is. I readily admit I was wrong.

I'm glad we drafted Cam. I have no idea how it would have turned out had we gone "with my plan" or whatever, but I'm very happy with what he's done and what he can bring to this team in the future. I still wish we'd done more to help this defense than what we did, but they couldn't have predicted the injuries to our LBs.

I'm frustrated at losses this year because I expected our problem to be offense, not defense, if we started a rookie QB. But it's been defense... and that's frustrating after having gone so many seasons with at least an average D here.


Honestly, if u an avid football watcher, u would know that this is the time where the defense NEED to step up their game if they haven't already. This time last year, it was GB defense that took the team all the way to the SuperBowl not their offense because no one knew how Rodgers was going to play after his return from his injury. Two defensively strong teams played in the SB this year.

Noticed the Bills have started to regress? The offense was kicking butt in the beginning of the season.

Edited by footballisasport, 20 November 2011 - 07:47 PM.


#152 mav1234

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:45 PM

if you told me at the start of this season we'd score 30, 29, 27, 33, and 35 points among 11 games this season I'd think we'd be 5-6, maybe 4-7 at worst... I had no idea how bad our defense would be.

'course we've had our share of low scoring games too, but I expected that. Meh. There's always next year...

Honestly, if u an avid football watcher, u would know that this is the time where the defense NEED to step up their game if they haven't already. This time last year, it was GB defense that took the team all the way to the SuperBowl not their offense because no one knew how Rodgers was going to play after his return from his injury.

Noticed the Bills have started to regress? The offense was kicking butt in the beginning of the season.


Bills are collapsing on both offense and defense. Agreed that now is the time to step up. I just don't think it will happen because this team just doesn't have the talent of a typical NFL defense. We are being ravaged by injuries, we're down to third string linebackers starting games.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:47 PM

During Rothlisburger's rookie year the Steelers tried to limit his pass attempts and lean on the run. Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez also were told to manage the game and hand off to Turner/Greene. We tell our guy to air it out like Dan Fouts. Some of this vitriol towards Newton should be directed to the coaching staff.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:00 PM

if you told me at the start of this season we'd score 30, 29, 27, 33, and 35 points among 11 games this season I'd think we'd be 5-6, maybe 4-7 at worst... I had no idea how bad our defense would be.

'course we've had our share of low scoring games too, but I expected that. Meh. There's always next year...



Bills are collapsing on both offense and defense. Agreed that now is the time to step up. I just don't think it will happen because this team just doesn't have the talent of a typical NFL defense. We are being ravaged by injuries, we're down to third string linebackers starting games.


U only had three low scoring games and one of them u actually won.

Some are now quick to say that Cam is regressing. Heck if ur QB have thrown almost 500 yds, for two straight game and the team lost...Have helped out both in the air and with his feet and his team still can't win, then maybe it's time to start facing the reality that a QB simply cannot win alone. With or withour mistakes on his part.

I have rooted for this team just like I do the Eagles, Pitts, and GB and my own teams the Jets and Gaints, from the beginning of the season. But I will be honest, saw the writing on the wall since the first game that this team wasn't going to win if the defense was simply going to keep giving the game away in the late third or fourth qrtr. Did u count how long it took for the Lions to move ahead of the Panthers once the panthers tied the game? Heck the Broncos held off the Jets for three damn qrtrs until The Golden Calf of Bristol was able to get his game runs in. The Panthers have a 27-14 lead near the end of the frth qrtr and allow the Lions back-up RB to have his best game ever.

This team is way to charitable for me.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:07 PM

During Rothlisburger's rookie year the Steelers tried to limit his pass attempts and lean on the run. Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez also were told to manage the game and hand off to Turner/Greene. We tell our guy to air it out like Dan Fouts. Some of this vitriol towards Newton should be directed to the coaching staff.


I agree. I had a bad feeling when Rivera said he wished he had more Cam Newtons that Cam was going to be compensating for the weakness of the offense. I wonder if the coaches seriously don't trust anyone on the offense whose isn't named Cam, Smithy, Olsen or Schokley? And if they rather take their chances with have Cam throw the ball than the running game against a defense like the Lions after what happened with the Titans?

#156 mav1234

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:12 PM

our running backs were gashing the Lions.

they just don't want to be a "running" team, and they don't want to "let" opponents dictate to them what they can and can't do.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:33 PM

Honestly, if u an avid football watcher, u would know that this is the time where the defense NEED to step up their game if they haven't already. This time last year, it was GB defense that took the team all the way to the SuperBowl not their offense because no one knew how Rodgers was going to play after his return from his injury. Two defensively strong teams played in the SB this year.

Noticed the Bills have started to regress? The offense was kicking butt in the beginning of the season.


Do you think our defensive talent could step up in comparison to the Packers d talent of last year ? Good God, give me a call. I need some of the peyote you are ingesting.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:36 PM

Most of us who wanted to start Matt Moore weren't thinking to do it to tank to get andrew luck at all. I can only speak for the handful of people who didn't want to go QB first but wanted to go D instead... I was hoping our defense would be good enough with good drafting and FA pickups, and with a new system, Moore could win us some games. I was thinking if we still needed a QB next year, and if we ended up in position to draft one, we could get a guy next year (didn't expect it'd be Luck tho), but that was because I didn't think Cam was anywhere close to as good as he actually is. I readily admit I was wrong.

I'm glad we drafted Cam. I have no idea how it would have turned out had we gone "with my plan" or whatever, but I'm very happy with what he's done and what he can bring to this team in the future. I still wish we'd done more to help this defense than what we did, but they couldn't have predicted the injuries to our LBs.

I'm frustrated at losses this year because I expected our problem to be offense, not defense, if we started a rookie QB. But it's been defense... and that's frustrating after having gone so many seasons with at least an average D here.


The defense looked better because we were playing Foxball.

#159 mav1234

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 08:37 PM

The defense looked better because we were playing Foxball.


It wasn't just that. The defense was playing better... possibly because it wasn't injured, sure, but it was playing better.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:02 PM

Cam threw 4 picks today and missed open receiver time after time after time. Didn't exactly do his part.

He has regressed, and I'm very, very concerned.


1-He's a rookie
2-Teams adjust and game plan
3-He would benefit from a consistent running game to take pressure off him

Lets not freak out here. How about his ability to escape and make plays with his feet. He needs a full off season to develop his passing. It will come.

Like Will Ferrell in Old School said..

"We gotta keep our composure!!!"

#161 PaulSoleil

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:09 PM

11td and 14ints? newton should flash that #1 less in the endzone and stop turning the ball over.

oh wait...he's an icon though

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:11 PM

11td and 14ints? newton should flash that #1 less in the endzone and stop turning the ball over.

oh wait...he's an icon though


So what QB on our roster last year (or this year) or what QB available in the draft do you think would have us winning games...or even being competitive....

#163 AceMan

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:56 PM

Cam giveth and Cam taketh away :cam:

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:57 PM

It would be easier if people just pretended the defense wasn't on the field, that way they wouldn't be let down when the other team scores and gets endless amounts of first downs.

That's what I do now anyway.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 12:19 AM

Sure, they helped...

but keep in mind that only 1 TD came after an interception, and that Cam tied the game at 35 when he'd thrown a total of two interceptions. The defense gave that tie up, then his next 2 INTs came.

Cam did not play well, Cam was part of our loss, but defense really let us down today.


People who listen to Mav (except pre-draft ;)) will be wiser people.


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