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I hate to be the debbie downer, but it doesn't make a difference who wins. The last real president of the people got his head blew off riding down the street for trying to do his job. If you think anybody is brave enough to go that route"(no pun intended) again you're crazy. I'd like to think Ron Paul is different. It's hard for me to trust anyone knowing how fugged up this poo really is.

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With looming economic doom over the horizon, i sincerely doubt that Obama will win the next election, unless Americans really are that plain ignorant. You think Obama's and congress' ratings are low now, wait till the dollar tanks...that'll be the official nail in the coffin for them, which works in Ron Paul's favor being he is the only candidate that doesn't subscribe to the fascist status-quo. I still think there's a good chance Obama won't run for re-election next year. In the political world, Obama has an eternity till the next election...considering this and current on-going developments he faces, i.e. escalating wars and the domination of the middle east with sights now on Iran; economic turmoil that will make the 2008 crash look whimpy in comparison; heightening of fascist police state in correspondence with rising protests...let's just say A LOT can, and probably will happen between now and then, which will hopefully help Americans to see the world and its systems in a different light.

Ron Paul in my opinion has the best chance to win because he is the only person who stands out from the rest. Obama, Gingrich, Romney, Perry, etc are literally all clones of eachother. When sh*t hits the fan I would like to think that people will no longer continue to look towards these establishment puppets who have been enabling this mess from the start.

You are giving Americans way too much credit.

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what wars are escalating exactly? Other than ones we are not involved in perhaps....

Nice to see venom and pantherfan49 are on the same page with this, sounds like Obama has a better chance of winning than I thought given their combined track record on, well, everything.

Other than making the name "Obama" sound funny that is.

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I hate to be the debbie downer, but it doesn't make a difference who wins. The last real president of the people got his head blew off riding down the street for trying to do his job. If you think anybody is brave enough to go that route"(no pun intended) again you're crazy. I'd like to think Ron Paul is different. It's hard for me to trust anyone knowing how fugged up this poo really is.

I fear that about Ron Paul as well. This is why it's imparative the system be exposed, otherwise the cabal will continue to run the show behind the scenes as the public figure heads in office rotate in and out.

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I still think if more people knew who Huntsman was he would have the best chance at not only the Republican nomination, but the general election.

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I still think if more people knew who Huntsman was he would have the best chance at not only the Republican nomination, but the general election.

Huntsman cannot win because of his ties to Obama. The 2012 election is going to be about being anything but Obama (kindof how Obama made 2008 about not being Bush, even though Bush wasn't running).

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what wars are escalating exactly? Other than ones we are not involved in perhaps....

Nice to see venom and pantherfan49 are on the same page with this, sounds like Obama has a better chance of winning than I thought given their combined track record on, well, everything.

Other than making the name "Obama" sound funny that is.

You cant really take any of the ignorant crap you spout off on here seriously, can you? But you know what...you're right. I guess it would be unfair of me to call them escalating wars, being that a "war" implies both sides have an equal opportunity to come out on top. I suppose it would be more accurate to describe the situation instead as our escalating domination and straight up takeover of the middle east and its resources, one nation at a time...with the end game being Iran on their "Path to Persia," as some put it.

Do you honestly think the reality of our military efforts over there have been in the name of ridding the world/region of western terrorist threats? Please say no.

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Huntsman cannot win because of his ties to Obama. The 2012 election is going to be about being anything but Obama (kindof how Obama made 2008 about not being Bush, even though Bush wasn't running).

You mean acting as an ambassador to China under Obama?

I don't follow politics nearly as much as you guys do, but I would see being an ambassador to one of the leading powers in the world as a plus. I know that most people only go by superficial rhetoric when voting, but if you got past that and look at track records he is the best the Republican party has in my opinion. I guess I can see how accepting anything from Obama can be a death sentence though in the Republican party.

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You mean acting as an ambassador to China under Obama?

I don't follow politics nearly as much as you guys do, but I would see being an ambassador to one of the leading powers in the world as a plus. I know that most people only go by superficial rhetoric when voting, but if you got past that and look at track records he is the best the Republican party has in my opinion. I guess I can see how accepting anything from Obama can be a death sentence though in the Republican party.

This is pretty much it.

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You cant really take any of the ignorant crap you spout off on here seriously, can you? But you know what...you're right. I guess it would be unfair of me to call them escalating wars, being that a "war" implies both sides have an equal opportunity to come out on top. I suppose it would be more accurate to describe the situation instead as our escalating domination and straight up takeover of the middle east and its resources, one nation at a time...with the end game being Iran on their "Path to Persia," as some put it.

Do you honestly think the reality of our military efforts over there have been in the name of ridding the world/region of western terrorist threats? Please say no.

That's kind of funny as the opposition party seems to want to complain about how we are losing our pull in the world lately - something I tend to agree with since economically, the world is starting to get a bit more balanced than it has been in the past century.

Your idea is just plain stupid, as we are abdicating our control over Iraq completely, and Afganistan is next up. We have no idea how Egypt and Libya are going to turn out....and so on.

If one day we decide we want to take over the oil fields, we just send a few missiles over to the capitals and military bases of any nation we want to take over, then waltz in. Simple.

Of course, arsenic in chickens may be in play here so I could be wrong.

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That's kind of funny as the opposition party seems to want to complain about how we are losing our pull in the world lately - something I tend to agree with since economically, the world is starting to get a bit more balanced than it has been in the past century.

Your idea is just plain stupid, as we are abdicating our control over Iraq completely, and Afganistan is next up. We have no idea how Egypt and Libya are going to turn out....and so on.

If one day we decide we want to take over the oil fields, we just send a few missiles over to the capitals and military bases of any nation we want to take over, then waltz in. Simple.

Of course, arsenic in chickens may be in play here so I could be wrong.

a bit more sarcastic than normal. Behind on our Christmas shopping are we?

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That's kind of funny as the opposition party seems to want to complain about how we are losing our pull in the world lately - something I tend to agree with since economically, the world is starting to get a bit more balanced than it has been in the past century.

Your idea is just plain stupid, as we are abdicating our control over Iraq completely, and Afganistan is next up. We have no idea how Egypt and Libya are going to turn out....and so on.

If one day we decide we want to take over the oil fields, we just send a few missiles over to the capitals and military bases of any nation we want to take over, then waltz in. Simple.

Of course, arsenic in chickens may be in play here so I could be wrong.

Who exactly are you referring to as being the "opposition party?"

How is the world becoming a bit more balanced economically? Not that i'm disagreeing with you, I just think that could be translated to the humorous reality that yes, we're all becoming equally bankrupted and manipulated by the fascist global central banking takeover.

Hahaha...we're abdicating our control of Iraq and Afghanistan...are you really that naive? If only everything was that black and white. You should really read John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," and "The Secret History of the American Empire." It would help shed a lot of light on the truth behind said scenarios, which would help distinguish all the establishment propaganda and straight up lies that you have apparently bought into.

Abdicating control of Iraq makes for a great cover story, but unfortunately that is not the case. On the behalves of the global central banks, the companies that make up Big Energy and Big Pharma, and so on...the military industrial complex and Anglo-American geopolitical organizations have incrementally enabled control of the land in the Middle East, its resources, monetary systems, political structures, and human resources by the West and its corresponding corporations. We've built enormous billion dollar permanent military facilities over there which suggest we have no intentions on ever leaving the area for good. In case you havent learned by now, over history, time and time again, we have used military force to sought out and overthrow governments/political figureheads around the world under false pretenses with the intention of replacing them with Western puppets who will comply with the demands of the global establishment and the exploitation of their country. If you're not into reading books, check out the movie "Syriana," based off the book "See No Evil" written by ex-CIA Robert Baer.

I hope you don't translate all this as some sort of biased partisan viewpoint, as I expect you may to some extent. But as you should know, I am not into the pea-brained, false left v right dichotomy that is designed to keep us focused on fabricated, distracting topics, while using these methods to further drive division and estrangement amongst the masses. It is all about truth, period...which is all I ascribe to. Drop your pathetic, slave-enabling, political allegiances.

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